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  1. ThievingMagpie

    What line would Trump have to cross for him to be a non-viable candidate?

    Hi Bobber, I too would like to hear your response to the OP
  2. ThievingMagpie

    What is President Trump’s slogan for 2020?

    It needs to be something classic and aspirational, like "grab em by the p*ssy"
  3. ThievingMagpie

    Interesting fact to think about

    Why even encourage evangelism then? Humans can mix messages, add, take away, exploit and get themselves killed. Seems more straightforward to let Angels do it.
  4. ThievingMagpie

    Interesting fact to think about

    There are plenty of indigenous communities who have not had any interaction with the bible - in fact very recently a US missionary was killed when trying to interact with one. What of their souls? They don't speak a language the bible is printed in - do they get a free pass?
  5. ThievingMagpie

    When atheists disagree about the Objectivity of Morality ... !

    Without god, we must reach for an anime body pillow ^_^
  6. ThievingMagpie

    Trump Suggests UV Light and Injecting Disinfectant As COVID Cures Worth Exploring

    In a way it's nice to know that there's a threshold. Reminds me of this clip from Community: link
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    for atheists

    There're only a few places on the planet you can actually survive, the rest is ocean, desert or arctic wasteland. You're looking at the world from the perspective of water in a puddle, saying "look how convenient this hole is, it fits me perfectly!" when it is in fact you that fit the hole's...
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    for atheists

    Yeah I feel the same way and what's worst is that since Jesus the stakes have never been higher. I find it hard to square a loving God that establishes a penalty for non-belief (eternal torture) and simultaneously decides that overt displays of its existence aren't its jam anymore.
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    for atheists

    It tends to help if you don't look at human beings as the purpose of the universe (which is difficult because most religions consider humans to be somewhat important). Imagine that we are not the outcome of some intended plan - we are a pit stop on a much longer journey, one that will most...
  10. ThievingMagpie

    Does the Crucifixion inspire you?

    Probably because it's a foreign concept, I'm happy to hear your explanation. I'm sure you 'parse' the ideas of other philosiphies and religions from the POV of an outsider - ot doesnt make those ideas inherently true because they have an internal complexity. Anyway as above, happy to hear you out.
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    Does the Crucifixion inspire you?

    I dont see how that's a necessity. If god is all powerful he could forgive sin by doing.. anything really - like clicking or blinking. When you're dealing with an all powerful being why would it "need" to do anything? If it had to follow the rules, it wouldn't be all powerful. Again I see why...
  12. ThievingMagpie

    How should Christians educate the youth on sexual issues?

    To the meat of your post: thanks for the advice but its misplaced so let's leave it there. Moving back to the topic of the thread, I'm not trying to get one over on you. Newly married virgins whether 16, 22 or 45 or all as ill-equipped for the risks, consequences and joys of sex as anyone who...
  13. ThievingMagpie

    Does the Crucifixion inspire you?

    When I was in junior school we had assemblies that involved hymns and bible study (Church of England school). I remember feeling very sad and even angry at the idea of the crucifixion, I remember not being able to understand why no one rescued him. As an adult and an atheist I suppose the idea...
  14. ThievingMagpie

    How should Christians educate the youth on sexual issues?

    Eh, my vows were secular. I understand this is difficult for you to appreciate but my life and marriage is as fulfilling as can be and I think there is much more value in loving, accepting and respecting someone for differences in view and belief - seems a much more optimistic view of humanity...
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    How should Christians educate the youth on sexual issues?

    Dont worry, my wife's a christian and if she can't convince me, I doubt you will :) Though really she's a member of a very unevangelistic Anglican church and only really cares that I'm honest about what I believe and am respectful to her - which is mutual. Anyway back on topic - does your...
  16. ThievingMagpie

    How should Christians educate the youth on sexual issues?

    Nice try? I'm not a Christian so tbh the concept of drawing an imaginary line, calling it virginity and linking it to one's 'self esteem' is making a fuss out of nothing. Does your version of abstinence education include the information and protections I mentioned above? if not, how does it in...
  17. ThievingMagpie

    How should Christians educate the youth on sexual issues?

    Sex education is vital regardless of whether you have sex before or after marriage. Sexual hygiene, use of contraceptives, consent, menstruation, STIs can all impact married couples as well.
  18. ThievingMagpie

    uk leaves eu now what

    That's because we're still in a transition period which is most likely to be extended because of covid-19. Being concerned about how political decisions affect the vulnerable in society isn't stupid, its compassionate.
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    How should Christians educate the youth on sexual issues?

    No but you might teach them out but what drugs are, what the consequences of using them are both legally and psychologically and when it comes to legal drugs - like alcohol etc. - about moderation and the consequences of addiction. The point is about demistifying the subject and ensuring they...
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    Everyone's a socialist now.

    Basic rate is 20% over £12,500, so just a little off I guess