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I think the Son of Man has already forgiven sins.

"Lucifer" - capitalized - is from the Latin Vulgate version of the Bible written by Jerome in the 4th century, taken from the Latin "lucifer" - uncapitalized - referencing the prophecies in Isaiah 14:12 about Nebuchadnezzar II. It's the Latin translation of the Greek "phosphorous", and simply...

I hate to see lonely threads. :wave: Which satan? Or at least clarify your understanding of who/what satan is?

Scripture please that they "died spiritually".

Where did you get this from?

To offer a slightly different perspective, I'm amazed at those who say they read the Bible or have read the Bible have little or no knowledge of how the (current) Bible was put together in the first place.

Ok, let's put it another way, is he currently in heaven / kingdom of heaven / kingdom of God?

Blood covenant...for clarity before I comment further, are you saying that because an animal was presumably killed for its skin to provide clothes for Adam and Eve, that it's the sacrificial model for Christ's blood for us?

This. We must not forget the audience in whom the author of said scripture was speaking or referring too. In western Christianity, our concept of time and eternity is a Greek or Hellenistic concept of time. ie. time is linear, and eternity is forever. To the Hebrew/ancient Jews, eternity as...

I'm not disagreeing that it isn't real, yet you mention no scriptures on "hell".

Was Abraham saved? If so, how was he saved?