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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    While you are out, think about whether you want to discuss the subject title of the thread you started rom7-8
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    Once again: For when we were in the realm of the flesh,the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us,so that we bore fruit for death. Rom7:5 The law reveals sin. Death/condemnation comes through the penalty attached to the law if you break it, so death/condemnation comes through the...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    As I have repeatedly told you, and will quote the bible: For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. Rom 7:5 You do want to discuss the topic this thread concerns, right?
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    According to rom ch7(which is what your thread concerns). Sin, through the commandment, thou shalt not covet, aroused all manner of concupiscence in saul and made him exceeding sinful. I am trying to help you understand this
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    It is a fact, rom 7:5 states: The sinfiull passions aroused by the law It is a fact that sin took occasion by the commandment to arouse all manner of concupiscence in saul: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    You are still finding it hard to accept, or understand the core point made in rom ch7. Sin took occasion of the commandment to make saul the Pharisee exceeding sinfull. The TC were the ministration of death and condemnation for no one could faultlessly obey them. That is why they were: The...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    You specifically told me you would be happy to discuss the subject of this thread with me, and rom7:6 has seldom been quoted to you as much as I have quoted it. Lets leave it to the unbiased observer to decide which of us is more likely to have the authentic view
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    Paul stated the law engraved in stone was the ministration of death. This can only be true if it was the law of sin and death, because without sin, it could not be the ministration of death. Paul also stated through the commandment: Thou shalt not covet, death/condemnation came to him...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    As I am the one who has much quoted rom7:6 to you, and you continually told me I was then putting my own words over and above God's word, I will leave it to the unbiased observer to consider who you were referring to. You obviously know, I am not going to spend time endlessly correcting all the...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    Then please explain, according to what Paul wrote, why it is wrong to say the TC are the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone(TC), came with...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    A man stumbles into a church service one night in a desperate state. The years of drunken revelry, sleeping with woman after woman and constantly seeking to gratify the flesh have caught up with him. He is broken, alone and in despair. He would never have thought of entering a church, believing...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    If I asked a professional poker player to have a game of poker with me for a ten pence stake, he might oblige, but there wouldn’t be any excitement in the game for him, would there? The stake is too small. If the following week he was playing a game in Las Vegas and there was a million dollars...
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    ROMANS 7-8 GOD'S LAW ABOLISHED? OR IS IT SIN?

    You keep missing the key ingredient from rom ch7. Sin bound saul through what was holy, just and good/the law with its power to condemn. Through that system Saul, became exceeding sinfull. Romans ch7 is all about: Thou shalt not covet, from verse 7 onwards. It is all about the law concerning the...
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    Is sin really the transgression of the law?

    BTW As you must believe the first century church gave gentile converts a licence to sin by not asking them to avoid the Levitical unclean foods(a ridiculous notion) I think that shows your idea of what is and what is not applicable law as written down is, to put it mildly, totally unreliable
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    Is sin really the transgression of the law?

    You have been given the answer as clear as day. And I did not have to excuse answering by telling you I had to go out!!
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    Is sin really the transgression of the law?

    I guess some feel they have to refer to an external law written on stone, in order to contemplate on God and his goodness to them. And they cannot do this unless they set aside a specific day when they do not work in order to do so. And they are likely encouraged to do it, fearing being placed...
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    Is sin really the transgression of the law?

    I'm not in a loop you have been given the answer, however: Though they have eyes they cannot see Though they have ears they cannot hear
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    Is sin really the transgression of the law?

    It is obvious, that stiff necked, heathen people(as God described the Israleites to Moses) would not choose to spend their time dwelling, or contemplating on God and his goodness to them. Therefore, they were instructed to do so, and in order for this to happen, they were instructed to cease...
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    Is sin really the transgression of the law?

    If you adhere, or follow the spiritual intent of the commandment you do not break what matters to God Because you can only see the letter itself, you write error strewn posts after error strewn posts. You deny Paul stated the TC are the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation...