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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Hi 2Phil, sorry for not having responded at the time, it's because I stayed several weeks without accessing the CF. I am not American but to me this fundamentalism and literalism of these pastors of the American evangelical context does not show good intentions, in fact the bible like any other...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Hello ViaCrucis thanks for replying, I think it might be worth considering this paradox, since infinite regressions dont have a lot of "philosophical persuasion" and can cause us to walk in circles all day long. The Niceno creed is a confession that may be open to several deep questions of...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Hello Yaakov Greenbaum, thank you for responding, but how can we say or know that God is "infinite"? Just because we cannot understand "all" means that "God is infinite", a personal and infinite God may be the idea or a human invention (why not?).
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Hello jesus316, thanks for replying, but for many this statement is not a good logical point of view, why does the Bible say that God is imutable and eternal, if God is imutable and eternal because at some moment in eternity he simply decided to "create something"? It is much easier to think...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    2PhiloVoid, only now that I noticed that I said something totally meaningless in post # 22, since "nothing" has no qualities, characteristics or a trace to define it and the most bizarre was I have said "accustomed to nothing" (as if "nothing" was something practical or habitual). :p:confused...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    @2PhiloVoid to those who are accustomed to "nothing" do they think that this absurdity is the only thing capable of filling these limits of religious intuition, perhaps? It means that Jesus is similar to the concept of "nothing" but at the same time can become something much more subtle than...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    I think that for many the "nothing" is just a linguistic "incronguence" maybe.
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    2PhiloVoid thanks for replying, I actually started this topic (for more absurd whatever discussing this) to see if people could have some "philosophical statement or affirmation" of it (though I have never read an "extensive" philosophical discussion about it, if there is a), but by thinking...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Some religions and philosophies may draw similar conclusions in some ideas such as (there is only one creator God) as you seem to suggest, only problem is that there are different concepts and phenomena in these religions that are particular and vital to each of these religions (although these...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Sorry for the delay in answering, I'm writing froma cell phone. I dont thin k that the etymological meaning of the name of a deity helps a lot , Muslims can also say that Allah is the only creator of the universe, the Hebrew name YHWH and Arabic Allah can actually be applied to the same...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Good point, that is why I do not understand the monotheistic religions, the theists take a point of the Unmoved Mover of Aristotelian philosophy and any classical philosophical concept about atributtes of God (as you well said) and often apply in their particular divinity, being that also...
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    Thanks for reply ewq1938, yes, the skeptic affirms that he doesnt know about these things, since the Christians to avoid the difficult questions prefer to simply say "It was God who created" "It was God who did" and I do not see how this helps in many stuff.
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    God the Father and the "Nothing" - Is there something to be said about this??

    I know this subject should be discussed in the Forum of Philosophy, but it seems that the Forum of Philosophy is Inactive I dont know if this title is ideal for this OP, but come on, the Christian (and the theists in general) says that the universe can not have been created by "nothing" by...
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    How is the idea of the Christian God better than the idea of a non-personal God?

    @Quid est Veritas? Thanks for this informations, this is a lot for me to keep in mind.
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    How is the idea of the Christian God better than the idea of a non-personal God?

    @Quid est Veritas?, you actually wrote many things that I have to actually agree with most of your points, only I did not understand when you said: "Science arose in Western Christendom." I think it is incorrect to say that without the presuppositions of Christianity modern science, morality or...
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    How is the idea of the Christian God better than the idea of a non-personal God?

    All right, I'd be happy if you explained the differences to me when you got back from your trip. The only difference of mine for an atheist is that I admire both the universe and all creation that I use the term god (which I also call an impersonal god) to define it, and the atheist does not!
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    How is the idea of the Christian God better than the idea of a non-personal God?

    Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a petitio principii? That's why I think it's better to be agnostic about "perceived" or "non perceived", since we do not know or have an "accurate" perception of what it is, and most likely we will never know by following its reasoning (I'm sorry if I'm...
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    How is the idea of the Christian God better than the idea of a non-personal God?

    @ViaCrucis Thank you for sharing this answer. :)
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    How is the idea of the Christian God better than the idea of a non-personal God?

    It was as I said in my response to @Quid est Veritas? the problem is that pantheism itself is not encoded system (but even so I dont answer for all Pantheists) and I think many pantheists do not even care so much about this "origin and need question" (as well as this forms of Christianity that...