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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    Consensus of field also was a popular sentiment prior to Copernicus. Just because its popular does not mean its accurate. Macroevolution has been popularized and accepted based on phenotypic observations. I have stressed this numerous times. The more we study genetics the more baffling, not less...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    They are still frogs correct? So still microevolution... As these were not provided as links I will look them up and get back to you... the "Testing hypothesis in macroevolution", appears by title alone to support my premise that evolution is devolving from theory to hypothesis... As I am not...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    @sfs I disagree as physicists have moved to quantum mechanics... bosons, quarks, dark matter, but that is not relevant to the topic of this discussion. Thank you for demonstrating that Macroevolution is not being published, as there is no current understanding of the mechanism. That mechanism...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    They cannot, as described in the earlier diagram. There definitions make them mutually exclusive, however they can have shared conclusions as you pointed out. Hence the conclusion circle to rectify that very problem. The bias still exists... and is still the same problem... as demonstrated...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    Nice of you to link the two, they are still two different things. Hence two different definitions. Additionally, one is indeed proven the other is inferred! The rest of this argument has become semantics, I open the challenge up to the entire floor. I will concede the argument and state rather...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    Your limited understanding of science is starting to show! What you are referring to is not only provable, but it is called the first gas law or Boyle's law, it has been proven since 1662... "Boyle's law or the pressure-volume law states that the volume of a given amount of gas held at...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    Let me understand this then, Truth is stronger than proof because of things we know to be true but cannot prove? Definitions to assist my understanding: Proof: the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact or something that induces certainty or establishes...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    @The Barbarian Please demonstrate how proof is different than truth? Thank you for showing all the pictures that show the problems with phenotype! Thank you for demonstrating that venom shares some of the same DNA for most species as its still biologically produced venom. Thank you for...
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    How many participants here are geneticists? For the theory of Evolution... not so much. As stated previously in post #15. Current biology has very little in the way of genetic understanding of "evolution" as a complete process... Observing something is not the same as being able to prove...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    So nothing? This is as far as we go? We have not gotten to truth yet! :)
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    Is evolution a fact or theory?

    Scientific evidence states the following! Unless you actually understand genetics you should not be espousing ideas for which you have a topical understanding. Hybridization and speciation "At the molecular level, we still know relatively little about how these mechanisms work outside of...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    I want to demonstrate the flaw outside our current subject matter so that the concept is clear when we apply the idea to our current argument. In this way we can avoid any objections to the logic. Sample argument: All smurfy things, I only like smurfy things. Things that are not smurfy are not...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    As we have quit a few arguments being shown, I remade the Diagram in the accurate logic form. Please feel free to critique! I think you might notice that there is a problem inherent to one of the arguments shown in this diagram. The problem is not that it is illogical? It is not! The problem...
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    Chant tones?

    Maybe not what your looking for but here is a tone generator Online Tone Generator - generate pure tones of any frequency. I do know that most beneficial tones (to DNA or molecular structures) are around 528hz, but can range between 254-550hz. There is plenty of nonsense floating around about...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    Glad you caught that! It is indeed important! As we agreed to our "understanding" thus far, you are correct in that our "Understanding" does not intersect with the original text due to the language barrier. I wanted to make sure you were getting the relationships well as the diagram became more...
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    Creation Challenge: Refute it

    The answer then is NO. Your premise is invalid because it is derived from an illogical conclusion. This is like stating 1+ green = butterfly, prove me wrong! You posted this as a challenge, you are foolhardy, and dogmatic about your correctness. I believe this is a perfect example of "It is...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    I had to make a few changes... Some "Secular Science" agrees with direct and indirect translations of the Bible, just as "Creation Science". As previously stated this agreement is accidental. Some Secular Science does not agree with the English translation, but does agree with some of the...
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    Here is the argument for where "Secular Science" would fall given the previous associations. As demonstrated earlier "Secular Science" and "Creation Science" by definition must be mutually exclusive. They can however agree on some conclusions reached independently. "Secular Science" makes every...
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    Creation Challenge: Refute it

    We are within time as you stated, please describe time, in reference to a singularity (black hole) as humans understand? This is a scientific dispute as you requested. Warm regards, GBTG
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    Lets ask Venn!? OEC vs YEC

    Thank you! The feed back is helpful! Secular science and its relationship to all of this is up next. Regards, GBTG