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  1. David Kent

    Ellen White indicates Miller's message of Jesus coming in 1843 was "heavenly".

    The scorpions were not the Turks, but the Sarecens. The Turks were in the second half of chapter 9.
  2. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    Xenophon tells us that Cyaxares, Cyrus's uncle asked Cyrus to help defend Media from invading Babylonians, who he calls Assyrians. Cyrus was son of Cambeses 1st King of Persia who were lesser members of the Kingdom of the Medes. Caxares made Cyrus general of his armies. When Cyrus overcame the...
  3. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    Sorry Doug my memory forgot for me. The 32nd year, Nehemiah cleansed the chamber in the house of the Lord polluted by Tobiah. NEHEMIAH 13:6-9
  4. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    I doubt it. The Vatican issues Euros, although it is not in the EU or in the monetary union. If it joins the EU I guess the pope will become head. Remember, the treaty setting up the European Common Market, forerunner of the EU was the Treaty of ROME.
  5. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    Darius was made king. Daniel 9:1 When Cyrus captured Babylon, he made his uncle, Darius aka Cyaxares, king of Babylon, who died 2 years later, then Cyrus became king.
  6. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    You are still missing Isaiah 45:13 where God speaking of Cyrus said "13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts" Cyrus and Ezra mentioned the temple because...
  7. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    Hardly secret. 1Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
  8. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    You are still missing Isaiah 45:13 where God speaking of Cyrus said "13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts" Cyrus and Ezra mentioned the temple because...
  9. David Kent

    Michael stands up - Daniel 12:1, Revelation 12:7-9

    Satan is god of the world and his kingdom is still standing but it is curtailed since the resurrection. IMO.
  10. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    Chronology yes, that is why I don't believe the recognised dates because they disagree with scripture, from the command to rebuild the city by Cyrus, see above, to Messiah, the Prince was 490 years.. I take that to expire at the baptism of Jesus, when he was announced by John the Baptist and a...
  11. David Kent

    What I see might occur after this war with Israel and Hamas.

    Well either you are wrong or God got it wrong, and I know who I will trust. ISAIAH 45:1 Thus says the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have grasped, to subdue nations before him and to loose the belts of kings, to open doors before him that gates may not be closed: 2 “I will...
  12. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    Matthew 13 actually tells us just the opposite. The weeds are removed first. Matthew 13: 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, “Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
  13. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    Revelation 7.13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them...
  14. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    Jesus said "in this world you will have tribulation". Dispensationalism says "Christians will escape tribulation." I think is was someone called n Mcrath that said something like "I don't want to go through tribulation, I don't like going for an operation." And as there would be no more sea...
  15. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    The fig tree in that passage doesn't mean Israel, Luke says "The fig tree and all the trees" do all the trees represent Israel? Luke says it will be "when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its Desolation is near." The Christians in the city did see Jerusalem surrounded by...
  16. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    If Jesus is on earth and the church is in Paradise, how can we be "forever with the Lord"? The church has not been escaping tribulation for almost 2000 years. Millions died in the dark ages in the tribulation. Many more throughout the world are suffering tribulation. One reason why most in...
  17. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    Like you I was fought pretribulationism. I was in the Brethren and when I joined my dad said "Beware, their teaching on the second coming is false." But I ignored him. Some years later I met and married my wife, who was brought up in an Atheist family, but was saved when she was a teenager. We...
  18. David Kent

    How Does One Put A Pre-Trib Rapture Before “The Last Day”?

    The easy way out would be to deny Jesus. Many martyrs refused to take the easy way out and were burnt at the stake. Some took the easy way out and denied Christ. Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. So will you take...
  19. David Kent

    Why the obsession with End Times prophesy?

    My cousin has a Turkish wife from one of the minorities. She says her people are Armenian or Syriac, but the Turks call them Assyrian. They are not allowed to speak their own language as the Turks say they don't have minorities. Strangely, Xenophon in his Cyropaedia calls the Babylonians...