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  1. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    Flavius will exhibit a Jewish priestly tone to the Christ character, but he doesn't reference the Jesus character directly. He only makes allusions to the brother, but how much church influence there is I don't know. It's really meaningless to rely that heavily on Flavius, especially when his...
  2. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    This is a vague statement at best. This doesn't say much, how is that a scholarly error? The Stadion is only an attic Greek measurement. My point was that there is not much reliance on Flavius and that Flavius is in error, but you made a vague statement that, "The difference between 3 stadia...
  3. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    Your response is totally misguided to what is being purported, that or you are way too lazy to do any actual research. Simple example, Josephus is not consistent with numbers. For example, he says Mount Tabor is "thirty stadia" (18,200 feet), when in reality the mountain is only 1,920 feet...
  4. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    Like I stated Jesus may have existed (this doesn't mean it is confirmed), but also if Jesus did exist his epics are based on much older epics. In other words there is not a single thing that Jesus did that wasn't done before in other myths. How much of the Jesus myths were exaggerated is the...
  5. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    Most likely there was a myth hero Jesus, but he's popularized by the Church, the same is done with the rest of the Bible. But this same phenomenon happens in most culture's, so I'm not surprised.
  6. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    Not actually true at all, there is disagreement among secular scholars. Such as and who? What extra Biblical evidences do you have? The church, okay so that is essentially going to be based on Biblical claims, that isn't extra Biblical at all. The very fact that the same type of epic in the...
  7. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    I guess you are confusing what I am asserting. Generally, the gospels cannot be verified, however, that being said, if a Jesus did exist he is an amalgamation of earlier epics, legends, myths, etc as are many other Bible characters. We find in Luke 8:25 Jesus operates the same way as a storm...
  8. ShamashUruk

    Gospels are eyewitness accounts

    "The Gospels" are generally writ in 3rd person, so no to answer you, no one knows who actually wrote what. You have an infusion of Greek cultural belief systems and writings from unknown "apostles", it is hard to determine if any writing in the NT itself can be authenticated. The documentary...
  9. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    hen·o·the·ism ˈhenōTHēˌizəm,ˌhenōˈTHē-/ noun adherence to one particular god out of several, especially by a family, tribe, or other group. No where does it state that the other Gods are denied to exist, your definition is lacking. The Israelite's pick up Monotheism after Babylonian...
  10. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    There are other contradictions in the Bible that are less implied and more subtle for example: The term Tevah used to describe the Ark of Noah, I challenge you to go and look up the word Tevah it doesn't mean "ark" at all, it means to be startled or alarmed. In fact the Yahwehist(s) who pen the...
  11. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Hence, from what I said it is worship of One God over Other Gods, it doesn't mean they don't deny the existence of other Gods. They just don't necessarily worship those Other Gods, this concept may actually start in Babylon as they were thought to be Henotheistic. I think because you make a...
  12. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Anything in the ancient near east, such as a group like the Hittite's will have worshiped their Gods, just as an example. Because they were a society, they had their own laws, their own culture, their own celebrations, so on and so on. What most people don't understand is that religion is...
  13. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    That is another term, however, we are limiting this to the time of Rome. However, I am sure that the term Heathen was used as well. But, check your history, pagans were not converted to Christianity either. I also don't know what you mean by "not specifically pagan"?
  14. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Pagan is a term for those who didn't convert to Christianity, as the "pagans" were considered hicks. When you conclude that pagan isn't insulting unless you don't think worshiping idols is insulting to God.....the question.....which God arises; as the term God itself isn't exclusive to Christian...
  15. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Hence, pagan is an insulting term. Polytheism is originally what those societies engaged and believed in, it isn't until Monotheism that we see Christians persecuting non Christians. Hence, Pagan is a derogatory (even by your statement) term in origin. Also, religion during those times...
  16. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    A search of the KJV reveals there is no Biblical definition for "pagan". Since, you are not a "pagan" and you define a pagan as "not enlightened spiritually or uncivilized spiritually" your own definition strays from the dictionary meaning, there is no definition for "pagan" that fits your "not...
  17. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Per the dictionary pagan [pey-guh n] noun (no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks. a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan...
  18. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Hence, regarded as being unintelligent or provincial is an insult. If you don't mind being called unintelligent then there is an issue. Yes Yahweh is a storm God, see Psalm 77:19 as well many other Biblical references to Yahweh as a storm God. Israelite's come out of Canaan, we don't see...
  19. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    To this post I have posted a surviving image of El as an idol and who is the God the Hebrews used as the basis for their later Yahwism and also in taking the name El which is a proper name as well as a word for a God regardless of ancient Semitic languages. El or Elu or Ilu whom was called and...
  20. ShamashUruk

    Biblical Contradictions

    Sodomy: intercourse involving anal or oral copulation. I believe this act can also be performed between man and woman. Therefore, your contention "homosexual" is incorrect in trying to directly link acts between same sexes when it happens between opposite sexes. And don't get confused I am...