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  1. rrobsr

    Guns are not the problem, society is...

    Parents need to teach their children that it is not nice to shoot other people. Children are being raised without any moral compass whatsoever. We are where we are today largely because of the hippie movement of the 60s. Just think of all changes that have occurred since then. Society is...
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    HAS THE CHURCH ALWAYS BEEN CORRUPT ?

    You are absolutely correct, those men were indeed human just like the rest of us. As long as we walk this earth that human side will be part of each and every one of us. The Bible refers to that as the “natural man.” 1 Cor 2:14, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of...
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    HAS THE CHURCH ALWAYS BEEN CORRUPT ?

    2 Tim 1:15, This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes. Before Paul died he said, "all they which are in Asia be turned away from me." From this verse (and others) it appears that Paul's message, which explained exactly what...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    You are absolutely right. My original post was tongue and cheek and was supposed to show the futility of trying to be "good enough" to make it into paradise. Of course nobody but Jesus himself is able to live a sinless life.
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Good question. Love is an abstract noun and therefore has no appearance at all. You can often see the results it produces, but not love itself. Do you have any ideas? I'd be interested to hear what you might have to say.
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Well, I hate to say it, but your doctrine seems a bit convoluted to me. For one thing, to get saved one must confess the Lord Jesus and believe God raised him from the dead (Rom 10:9-10). Nobody could have done that until he was raised. That leaves out Abraham, Moses, Isaiah, etc. I understand...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    First of all, thanks for the discussion. It always sharpens minds and makes us think. If what you said is true, and I'm not saying it's not, I have two questions for now: Why did Jesus die? What did happen on the day of Pentecost, what changed? Also, it is worth noting that in Matt 26:28 Jesus...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Yes, I understand holy (at least some little bit). As you say, God is holy and therefore set apart. Aren't we, as born again Christians also set apart, holy? 1 Cor 6:11 comes to mind, but I know there is more. Maybe I wasn't clear, but besides the spirit of man, the spirit of God, there are...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    The word "spirit" in the scriptures is used in several different ways depending on context. Index #9 in E. W. Bullinter's Companion Bible lays them out if you are interested. Suffice it to say for now that sometimes "spirit" refers to the spirit of man, i.e. the soul, and other times it refers...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Not saying you are wrong, but I wouldn't go by opinion. The question is settled by what the scriptures say. If I can't prove something from the scriptures then I just don't know that particular thing. Lot's of things I don't know, but I never think something is true because of opinion or...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    The word spirit in the NT is the Greek word pneuma. It has a rather broad meaning, but the general meaning is "a blast" or "a wind." Generally it is something invisible to our eyes yet has a real existence. It is used in a few different senses that have to be determined by context. 1 Thess 5:23...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    What is the gift of holy spirit we all receive at the new birth if not the spirit Adam had and then lost?
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    I I'll go with plan B anytime! Like I said somewhere, I was really kidding with the original post. Of course we need Christ to be saved. But if someone doesn't believe that and they still want to be in paradise, then their only option is to live a sinless life. Clearly not possible.
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Interesting comment. I'm not saying you are wrong, but how do you explain: Rom 7:14-25, 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Romans 5 is clear. The reason we die is because of sin. No sin means no death. I know that we all sin so this is somewhat of a moot point. Nonetheless, it is true that if someone didn't sin, they wouldn't die. That is precisely why Christ didn't stay in the grave.
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    Adam was body, soul, AND spirit. He lost the spirit after the fall. Every animal has a soul which is nothing more than breath life. At some point all animals, including humans, loose their soul, stop breathing, and die. The new birth makes spirit available once again and that is where eternal...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    I was half kidding with the original post. Of course every human is prone to sin because of our nature. Dogs bark, cats meow, cows moo, and humans sin. On the other hand, it is absolutely true that if (a big impossible if, I realize) someone did live a complete life without ever sinning, they...
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    How to be Saved Without Christ

    God is love...
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    Should Christians Walk in the God's Ways?

    I understand Now I understand. Right after I answered your post I thought of: Rom 8:2, For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Pretty much what you said. Free from the law of sin and death; what a wonderful reality! We're not going to...
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    Should Christians Walk in the God's Ways?

    I guess I misunderstood, but could you elaborate on what you mean by the law of Christ. I wouldn't claim to know everything in the scriptures, so I'm always open to learning. Thanks in advance and God bless... BTW, I like your quote from James. Something to keep in mind, to be sure.