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My intention is not to plaster anybody with anything. I think that what is essentially hedonism is foundational worldview within atheistic universe. But as a Christian, I see that we live in a world God created, and as such He provides morality to all of us, regardless of various philosophies...

Yes, but Bible doesn't reveal that God's purpose is to have people live out their personal desires. We all do that to the extent, but that's something that God allows in order to achieve His purpose. God's purpose for this creation, as I see it, is to lift up beings into eternity with Him. In...

It means both. By God's grace they got to be able to not see and believe, and in that way they are fortunate, while they will also be rewarded for having such faith.

Hedonism - the ethical theory that pleasure (in the sense of the satisfaction of desires) is the highest good and proper aim of human life. That's exactly what atheism provides as fundamental worldview. It is the only thing that makes sense in a short existence that comes from nothing, by...

I think that the more one holds to lordship salvation and/or fruit inspection the more he or she is in danger to actually not believe the Gospel, and thus is not yet saved. Unless lordship and fruit views came after a person believed the Gospel. Gospel says "Believe that Jesus Christ, the Son...

Not nihilism, hedonism - personal pleasure, or bias, or worldview matters. Thankfully there is God so He gives morality to all, including atheists.

Jesus is only one who was walking perfect on this Earth.

Authority. That's the context of the passage. Interestingly, what does honor mean? Why is command not to love parents but to honor them? An explanation that stuck with me about honor as a verb is that it essentially means not to harm. We could say both physically and emotionally. When you...

I don't consider myself to be calvinist, but I agree with calvinistic understanding of predestination, irresistible grace and atonement. At the same time, there seems to be a lot of calvinists who are either into lordship salvation or fruit inspection/changed life confirmation. Christian...

It's a great quote. The problem is many connect it to salvation or fruit inspection and strip it's message to something somewhat pharisaical. It's neither about salvation nor is it about fruit inspection. It's about making a profit from faith in this life. There are saved people, though, who...

You did define, as it seems, perpetrators of "abortion clinic bombings, crusades, inquisitions, etc" as true believers. We can at best say they are professed believers. I don't know if they really put their trust for salvation in Jesus Christ. Nonetheless, John 16:2 is not about that cases.

That was what I was saying from the OP forward, more or less. But Bible reveals that it goes as far as this material life is concerned. Eternal life can only be gotten through belief in Jesus Christ.

Statement was surely not a fact. And you are threading on some dangerous grounds, seems to me, by what can be perceived as defending murderous satanists, worshippers of false gods and atheists. (I'm talking about murderers from those three groups.) John 16:2 says: "They will put you out of the...

Yes it would be sociopathic if this was actually universe without God. But since God exists, He is provider of inherent morality to all humans. Some just deny His existence and define theories to support their position.

That's true. I don't understand why all the fuss in this thread. Atheism provides this kind of "morality": If something is good for my pleasure in this world, I accept it, if something is bad for my pleasure in this world, I try to block it. That's the basis of social contract you are...

Atheist can define things however he likes. It doesn't change the fact that your morality was given to you by God.

I agree.

That's utility you are describing. And it would be so if this is atheistic universe. But morals in our universe don't come from a contract, just like love doesn't come from a contract.

No it's not a fact, because that statement was not quantitative nor had comparisons in it. If "history is full of atrocities that have been committed by people thinking they are doing will of Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob' God" then it's a fact that "history is much much fuller of atrocities that...

Have you even read OP? In second sentence I wrote: "That doesn't mean that individual atheist is amoral. But he or she is moral for reason outside of atheism, not because of atheism." And I kept repeating it. I don't claim an atheist is amoral, but that atheistic worldview does not provide any...