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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    Perhaps so :) Take care as well :)
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    There’s always the hope that God will change your heart before you die. I have heard that it takes on average 20 or so times of hearing the gospel before a non believer finally comes to faith in Christ. Clearly people don’t just come to faith on their own. God has to do something inside of...
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    If you cannot see God’s deep love for you in the cross of Jesus Christ, and that is not sufficient to draw you to worship God, then nothing will. Unless the Holy Spirit gives you revelation here, then no amount of arguments from me or anyone else is going to convince you. There’s absolutely...
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    Since you are thanking me for the chat, I am assuming that you feel that your conversation with me is over, and that you are not really looking for me to respond to your post. That is fair. I think you and I probably have reached an impasse, and that I would just be repeating the things I...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    That is what I mean —I want to hear about repentance and salvation by forgiveness through the cross. I don’t want silence on the topic. I am not asking for him to go into great detail. But I do want to hear the gospel, especially at Good Friday and Easter time.
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    You and I are approaching the Bible from different starting premises. I understand how you are viewing it, I think. First of all, you are approaching holiness as a selfish, inward focused attribute that permeates all things that God does, including the redemption of humanity. While, yes...
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    Thanks. And also this one, which is actually the verse I was thinking of: The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 NASB 95
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    I agree that God is the one and only, truly holy being in existence. However, I disagree when you assert that this makes God self focused of inwardly directed. Why? Because He makes people holy as part of sanctification. He also allows for people to be reconciled back to Him through the...
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    Okay :). No problem. Take your time:)
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    Girlfriend Discipline

    I know that you said that this is not for you personally, but you have seen others ask these questions. First, I’d like to know if you would be okay with your girlfriend treating you like that if she felt you needed disciplining, or would this only be a one way thing (only boyfriends would be...
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    Yin and Yang? Not in My Bible!

    I do not see God as being dualistic in Scripture, nor do I see a yin and yang here (which is part of a completely different religion). However, you are correct in saying that God in Scripture is both a God of love and is holy. Where I disagree with you is in definitions and conclusions. I...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    Ok. Thank you :) I honestly think that those who practice domestic abuse have a twisted understanding of love and of Christianity. I have been on dating sites in which a supposedly Christian guy has contacted me, and he talks about his right to be able to “discipline” his wife if she...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    That’s really interesting. Would you say that Christians in Australia are pretty much in agreement with each other as to what Christianity is, and what the essentials of the Christian faith are? I certainly do not view penal substitution like this, and do not know anyone who does. I am sure...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    Thanks for the clarification. :). So if penal substitution was one of the original fundamentalist things, then that would suggest that there were at least some people back at that time that also were opposed to it. Hmmm...I think all denominations have probably changed their stance on things...
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    Acts 8:26-40 Ethiopian eunuch and Philip question

    I wouldn’t necessarily call it socialist, but it is definitely not the kind of message I wanted to hear. However, the social gospel does have a lot in common with socialism. And, yes, I think it is increasingly going to be hard to find a church that I can agree with, unless some kind of...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    Ok. Thank you for explaining that. I can understand the concern, and I am sure that as a clergy person you have experienced and talked with others who may have felt that way. As a layperson, I personally do not feel hated or rejected by God due to penal substitution. I have never heard of...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    Okay, thank you for that clarification. Unless I am misunderstanding you, this confirms the idea that those who don’t like penal substitution are the ones who are emphasizing the difference in these theories, in order to avoid penal substitution. Would you say that this is a general push...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    Okay. Thank you. That provides a little more clarity to what you are saying. I had never really thought about a difference in how some people might approach the idea of a gap, and I can see how some people might carry it to an extreme, which I think is what you are saying some people are...
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    Avoidance of Atonement “theories” in some churches

    Thank you. Okay, so would that include a move away from the idea that there is a gap between us and God? (Seeing how you said estrangement from God above as one of the things you are seeing a move away from). What about the idea of Jesus taking on our sins or dying in our place? Or what about...