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  1. Evan Jellicoe

    No sign of Antifa in civil unrest cases...

    I know, but facts are facts. Antifa does advocate "fighting fire with fire." Anybody who denies that is mistaken. But the opposition of some to everything that Antifa stands for is an unfair exaggeration, and I am suspicious of some of the particular accusations made against antifa. Especially...
  2. Evan Jellicoe

    ANTIFA preparing for violence

    Allow me to insert this into the discussion: ADL (Anti-Defamation League, a widely-respected organization that fights against antisemitism and racism) does in fact agree that antifa advocates violence, but they also say this: Another concern is the misapplication of the label “antifa” to...
  3. Evan Jellicoe

    No sign of Antifa in civil unrest cases...

    That may not be exactly the right question. Maybe the clearer establishment of a baseline of "What, exactly, are we talking about?" might be a good idea. Allow me to quote again from that ADL article that came up earlier. ADL does in fact agree with you that antifa advocates violence, but they...
  4. Evan Jellicoe

    How's that Seattle 'No Cop' thing going?

    Sorry, that's not what I said. I said that your descriptive analogy was not a very good one. That's all.
  5. Evan Jellicoe

    How's that Seattle 'No Cop' thing going?

    Not a good analogy at all. Public property/private property; mass national movement involving hundreds of thousands/one private party involving hundreds; major political point/no political point at all. I'm guessing that in Seattle, if cool heads prevail in the government, things will...
  6. Evan Jellicoe

    This is what happens when bigotry dominates the main conservative media platform

    Your final sentence is actually pretty good. But the bolded part is practically the dictionary definition of "prejudice." Pre-judging. Making up one's mind in advance, before even reading it, that you don't believe a particular source. This is what's wrong with so much political debate in...
  7. Evan Jellicoe

    How's that Seattle 'No Cop' thing going?

    Why not? Sometimes the best response in extraordinary situations is to wait patiently until things settle down.
  8. Evan Jellicoe

    No sign of Antifa in civil unrest cases...

    Interesting article. Critical of Antifa, but balanced and rational. But there was this tidbit late in the article: "Right-wing extremists have been one of the largest and most consistent sources of domestic terror incidents in the United States for many years; they have murdered hundreds of...
  9. Evan Jellicoe

    A question to the Christian Trump supporters.

    "Love the stranger among you" doesn't address immigration? That seems to defy the natural understanding of the words, which of course are not laws with America's name on them, but general principles for God's people to live by. As I was taught in Bible college, "If the plain sense makes good...
  10. Evan Jellicoe

    This is what happens when bigotry dominates the main conservative media platform

    Oh, I don't know. You could be right, but on the other hand this thread could be a good illustration of what happens when bigotry dominates. Some want to talk about the bigotry, and others want to change the subject. I'm just sayin. . .
  11. Evan Jellicoe

    Trump praises "S.S." for great job

    Reminds me of that time, which I have mentioned before here, when I went over to my neighbor's townhouse unit, three units south from mine, to ask him to turn down his music that he was playing loudly in his back yard. At 2:00 in the morning. He replied that I was being overly sensitive. Or the...
  12. Evan Jellicoe

    Trump praises "S.S." for great job

    From the article: In a tweet Thursday morning, President Trump abbreviated “Secret Service” to “S.S.” — also the abbreviation for the Schutzstaffel, a paramilitary organization created by Adolf Hitler. One of its units was responsible for enforcing Nazi racial policy. The accepted abbreviation...
  13. Evan Jellicoe

    Black Lives Matter is not perfect, but they are on the right track

    It's an American idiom that is intentionally vague and general, in order to have a conversation. But if you wish for specifics, I would say that the "things" are those particulars in which "people of color" (i.e. people who are not completely "white") are treated differently--more...
  14. Evan Jellicoe

    This is what happens when bigotry dominates the main conservative media platform

    Perfectly true, and that matches what I said, but I wasn't responding to that. I was responding to: . . .and providing a reasonable answer to that question.
  15. Evan Jellicoe

    Black Lives Matter is not perfect, but they are on the right track

    Correct, if you allow the bad actions to overshadow the root problem. But of course it isn't the leadership (such as it is) that is calling for violence, it is a combination of individuals whose anger overcomes their self-control, plus random individuals who are just out looking for some free...
  16. Evan Jellicoe

    This is what happens when bigotry dominates the main conservative media platform

    To an ordinary person who appreciates logic, the solution to excessive certainty is not to do away with certainty altogether, but to practice humility and acknowledge that there could be times when something that makes perfect sense to me might in fact be mistaken. Since children are far more...
  17. Evan Jellicoe

    This is what happens when bigotry dominates the main conservative media platform

    Why not? That's easy. It's because "certainty" can be overdone. (It can be underdone, too, but that is generally less of an issue.) As Mark Twain probably never said, but could have, "It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so." Or, as...
  18. Evan Jellicoe

    How should Christians view political action?

    I'm pretty sure that you did not mean to include Peter and other apostles in this category, or any who with a clear conscience stand against the laws of man because of the clear commands of God. Certainly it is easy to misuse the Bible to justify conduct that really isn't justifiable, but that...
  19. Evan Jellicoe

    Black Lives Matter is not perfect, but they are on the right track

    And I agree with you. Liberal foolishness is just as foolish as conservative foolishness. But extreme liberal foolishness does not negate the entire liberal message, any more than extreme conservative foolishness negates the entire conservative message. *
  20. Evan Jellicoe

    This is what happens when bigotry dominates the main conservative media platform

    It seems common around here for people who don't like the OP's point of view to re-route the discussion instead of answering it directly. So let's get back on topic by re-stating the entire OP: Quite a provocative WAPO op-ed piece 2 days ago by Michael Gerson. Who's an evangelical Christian and...