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  1. Bugeyedcreepy

    Why evolution isn't scientific

    That depends, when we examine the genome, would we find the same genes as we do in birds, or is it a true convergent evolutionary development and their DNA has recreated novel genes to express these new feathers, which fantasy would you like to explore?
  2. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Yes, yes, there are contradictions as it goes on at Exodus 34:10 to describe how God tells Moses he will make a new covenant and threatens everyone who consorts with other Gods, then tells Moses to "Observe thou that which I command thee this day:" (as in, not what he said the last day Moses was...
  3. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    If I predict that there's going to be an earthquake that will kill hundreds of people - and this happens at any point in the future, was I (or whatever deity I was writing my book on behalf of), the only possible cause of the prophecy? What about Ezekiel 26:1-21 - Nebuchadnezzar never destroyed...
  4. Bugeyedcreepy

    Is this for real?

    Well, you'd better propose those other explanations because the Human/Chimp lineages are analogous to the Baboon/Macaques, and if you're suggesting that Baboons and Macaques are from the same "original" kind, then you're also suggesting that Humans and Chimps are from the same "original" kind too.
  5. Bugeyedcreepy

    Why evolution isn't scientific

    How about a Mammal appearing before Synapsids existed? or a Mammal with Feathers? a Lizard or Dinosaur with Mammary Glands? there's so many to choose from. If such a thing were found, then we'd know about it already - and we'd know about it very clearly given the implications it'd have for...
  6. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    I beg to differ - Science has a radical history of success in narrowing in on true things about this reality and it is based on a very solid foundation of evidentialism that demonstrates to be very useful. If we're looking to find out true things about reality, then I'd be interested to hear of...
  7. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Jesus didn't list all ten commandments. As above, Exodus 34 version of the Ten Commandments would be the version in the Ark of the Covenant. Yes it does - Exodus 34:28 - "And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon...
  8. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Yes, which are for all we know, the same as your own experiences, so until we can find a differentiator, I have no way to tell the difference. Well, even if there were fulfilled prophecies in the Bible, it doesn't tell us anything about the cause of the prophecy - And then, what about the...
  9. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Cool, as much as it's good to get an idea on where you start, I was hoping to begin prior to this point - that is to say, could we establish your level of acceptable evidence prior to any interpreting of said evidence? For example, if I were to give you a position (not even a religious text...
  10. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Perhaps you overpaid? :P along with your more expensive version too, I'm interested... ...or, you could have two independent lines of evidence to a deeper issue you choose to overlook in yourself? Oh, they do... Well, I know ex christians can often get angry at christians... still with the...
  11. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Great start opening with a dishonest statement - especially when I said nothing about you and in a moment, you'll confirm what I actually did suspect, to boot. Well, I can't say I'm sure about that. If a God exists, then obviously it's in my best interest to know, and that's among my...
  12. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    You would rather muddy the water on the outsiders test of faith rather than honestly apply it to your deeply held belief - I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you haven't honestly applied the OTF to your own faith "and passed [Oh, the Irony]" as you initially hinted? No problem, I'll...
  13. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Feel free to spell it out. Well, I'm interested to hear how you applied the outsider's test of faith to your own belief. If that's too much, I'm also happy to discuss the merits of a supposed "loving and good God" killing innocent infants en-mass since that seemed to be your entry vector. If...
  14. Bugeyedcreepy

    A short quiz about evolution!

    It gets even better if you're american, 1 in 4 of your countrymen think the sun goes around the earth... :D 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says
  15. Bugeyedcreepy

    A short quiz about evolution!

    ...so what you're saying is, creationists deliberately lie about what the theory of evolution is and says? I guess it'd be hard to complete a quiz like this given the obviousness of the outcome - either score 7/7 showing creationists know all about the theory of evolution, but lie about it to...
  16. Bugeyedcreepy

    A short quiz about evolution!

    WooHoo!!! 7 out of 7!!! :D
  17. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    presumptuous word salad. This seems to be you avoiding answering the question. How did you rigorously apply the outsider test of faith to your own beliefs? Agreed, especially when one is heavily invested in a belief before approaching the question... well, the topic of my query was the moral...
  18. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Of course, I'd be quite interested to see how you applied the outsider's test of faith, because I can't see how any religion is able to stick out over any other when rigorously applied... Yep, particulrly interested to hear how you applied that outsider's test of faith to your own... Agreed...
  19. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Not sure he did anything to start with. Do you believe any of the stories for any of the other religions you don't believe in?
  20. Bugeyedcreepy

    The value of our epistemological method in coming to a belief...

    Exactly how every other believer (and us non-believers too) see your religion. Welcome to reality. I thought it did quite well, tbh - even you recognised and failed the outsider test of faith. (read: Special Pleading!) Exactly. Now, if only there was evidence such a thing occurred, perhaps...