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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    Our ignorance or knowledge of morality bears no actual meaning itself to the existence of morality. You look for consistency within the scriptures and contrast it against the proposed 'special' revelation. It should be known that scriptures themselves are 'special' revelations. It also...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    Some forms of BDSM are illegal and remember you redefined BDSM as something within limits which is not true itself it's just defined as gaining self gratification from pain or humiliation, this is what I talked about when I said I wasn't getting into semantics you've apparently misread what I've...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    Take care Moral nihilism is not the same as complete nihilism. To call your argument for ought or ought not, "rational" I would disagree with. I believe you're a moral nihilist as you stated before that morality were mere man made concepts but you still believe their to be some underlying...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    Again I can rephrase your argument as "All people don't like x therefore doing x is morally wrong" Logically this makes no sense what so ever and there are people in this world that probably enjoy at least tortured and assaulted regardless of the definition. Being safe or freer has no...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    If your 'morality' isn't universal you can only apply your standards to those with empathy. Either way you're still just equating morality with empathy which is guess what, subjective to each person's discretion. So anyone's tastes can be justified. Again even if this was somehow not the case...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    I don't see a problem with you actually carrying this out in principle but the problem I have with the reasoning is it isn't sound. It's an appeal to emotional empathy which I have said previously doesn't exist universally nor is it right/wrong by itself. Meaning no justification just a rant...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    So to summarise "I don't like being assaulted, murdered, raped, tortured and stolen from therefore it is wrong to assault, murder, rape, torture and steal". What great emotionally charged drivel. In what world would you call this a logical argument? I'm asking you for a justification for why you...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    So you're equating empathy with morality which not all humans possess therefore it's not universal. I will sum up your "morality". "I would not like to see another suffer" You personally as to be influenced by your feelings so what I've been saying in a nutshell your "petty preferences" is your...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    Pain and loss are not necessarily immoral. Being raised by parents and THEIR particular preferences about what is right and what is wrong doesn't make their preferences moral or justifiable and having a mind to be able to know what is right and wrong doesn't mean you know such things it just...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    How admirable of you to hold onto your petty preference but like all emotionally charged responses it must be done away with if reason it to prevail. But A theist can account of things actually being evil or good. In a Theists world God is the creator of the board game called "life" like a...
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    Morally speaking, are Atheists and Muslims immoral?

    An Atheist can do moral things and can also do immoral things but why they hold certain things to be "good" or "evil" is beyond me. They cannot justify any form of morality besides their petty preferences or societal upbringing(Or survivalist mentality). It's unfortunate but I've argued this a...
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    Doubting Believer

    This will be my last reply to you. I said it before I'll say it again God was/is king of heaven. Heaven wasn't created. Oh please, where did I say I "know all" and epistemology isn't some game of who can know the most but What we can know. What if I told you that from the beginning of...
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    Doubting Believer

    I'll be blunt with you I didn't reply to you because I wanted to answer your question I simply wanted to correct your use of the word "long" and recommend that revrobor cease this particular discussion with you. I also questioned why this discussion was being held in an ethics and morality...
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    Doubting Believer

    The type of forever his talking about has no beginning or end it's continuous therefore it has no measurable distance as to qualify is as "long". It isn't comprehensible from beings like I and you. My message to you revrobor is to stay away from this unfruitful discussion as Atheists have no...
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    Doubting Believer

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    Doubting Believer

    Firstly this isn't within the scope of what I was arguing as I was simply arguing the justification for God not requiring a cause. Secondly I will go onto say that the moment time existed in this universe the universe had a beginning because everything subject to time has a beginning like I...
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    Doubting Believer

    It should be noted that this principle Doesn't have to be universally applied as we're dealing with two entirely different systems. The first system is our natural universe in which typically things are caused by other things. This is where we apply this principle as all things in this universe...
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    Doubting Believer

    GlendaMarie it's Exodus 21.
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    I strongly recommend not eating pork

    non-denominational isn't a denomination. I have no official set of doctrine besides the obvious trinitarian beliefs and other core beliefs. "I see, so if people's beliefs don't align precisely with yours, you look your nose down at them and call them nasty names. How Christian of you." Calling...
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    Can there be morality without God?

    "So, you blindly accept some other entities moral judgement. You accept it without evidence and without question, based on what an ignorant goat herder (no slight intended, just the fact of the matter) wrote in a book 2000 years ago. Surely you can see how ridiculous that sounds." It requires...