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  1. oldhermit

    "Philosophically speaking, is the Trinity considered polytheism?"

    I think the use of the word essence as related to God is an interesting one. We must recognize that there is a problem with linguistic valence that, when discussing the nature of God, simply cannot be resolved. Linguistic valence refers to the definitions we attach to words in order to connect...
  2. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    There is not ambiguity between or contradiction between "Thou shalt not kill", and "There is a time to kill." This is why it is so important to protect the original language. The commandment in Exodus 20:13 and Deut. 5:17 is "You shall not murder." The word is ratsach - murder, and is so...
  3. oldhermit

    A Look at Romans 1:18-32

    I would be interested in any comments or observations.
  4. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    This is true; in fact, Deborah was also a prophetess as well as a Judge. The appointment of a judge was nothing more than a judicial appointment, not a priestly one. You see Deborah judging Israel for perhaps 40 years but, what you do NOT see Deborah doing is directing worship in the temple or...
  5. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    How do you think Roman rule influenced Paul's writings? What circumstances do think would have influenced Paul in what he had to say in 1 Cor. 14?
  6. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    You keep coming back to the idea of interpretation. Instead of interpreting, why do you not simply accept the language of the text as it has been revealed to us? I think the reason is because you do not like what it says so you use an interpretation to assign a meaning to the text that appeals...
  7. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Here is what you said in post 321. "A new testament spiritual prophet wouldn’t have thoughts on law as principals. John never approached the topic that way for instance. Anyone loving Paul’s mesoginist interpretation according to law and not grace has ulterior motives imo." You just suggested...
  8. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    It is interesting that you accuse Paul of being a slave to the law when he was the primary advocate for no longer being bound to the Law. Paul had more to say about freedom from the Law that any other New Testament writer. That does not sound very pharisaical to me.
  9. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Your problem then seems to be with Paul in general. Since you do not like the things he says, your options are simple. You can either manipulate the language of the text to make it say anything other that what it says, or you can reject it altogether, or you can try to find some way to...
  10. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Think with me for a moment. If scripture is the communication of the mind of God to man, which is what it claims to be, then how could human intelligence and human reason be superior to revelation? Paul's teachings were never pharisaical. Not only does Paul insist that his words are the words...
  11. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    The passage you are looking for 1 Cor. 7:12, "But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her." If this is indeed the opinion of Paul in this matter you must remember that it is the opinion of an...
  12. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    What you are suggesting is that human reason has the power to assign meaning to scripture even when the language of the text does not support the interpretation. This is nonsense. Human interpretation is by its very nature an anthology of different opinions about any given thing. What makes any...
  13. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    You really do not understand what I am talking about do you?
  14. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Then you should understand that interpretation is not a valid approach to scripture. All interpretation does is render scripture malleable rather than absolute. This serves only to minimize the language of scripture in order to assign our own meaning to the text. Human interpretation is the...
  15. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    If you have not read post 262, Perhaps you could read that and then we can discuss the issues of interpretation.
  16. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    In Acts 20:30, Paul warned the elders of the Church at Ephesus that "from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them." I think it is evident that such interpretations of scripture by the so-called Church fathers of the succeeding...
  17. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Anywhere and any time the Church assembles for worship, whether you may regard it as public or not, it is still bound by the commandments of this text which Paul says are from the Lord.
  18. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    This subject receives a great deal of criticism because of the volatile reaction of those who call into question the legitimacy of assigned functions in the Church. Since the restrictions these passages place upon women in the Church do not fit into the current culture, every attempt has been...
  19. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Paul said that what he laid down regarding the behavior of both men and women in the assembly was "the Lord's commandments" and that these commandments from the Lord were to be the standard "in ALL the churches of the saints." This commandment had nothing to do with "defining the exacting...
  20. oldhermit

    What does the Bible say on women becoming pastors?

    Regardless of the conditions, whether openly or in secret, the Church continued to meet. There are many other examples from scripture to show that during the first century, the time in which Paul wrote this letter to Corinth, the Church met both in synagogues and in private homes as in the case...