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  1. A New World

    Revelation's Unfolding

    Nope that's not the USA. Mystery Babylon the great was none other than the great city Jerusalem the mother of harlots in the first century AD. In her was found the blood of the prophets and the saints. She was even guilty of killing Jesus Himself. Matthew 23:34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending...
  2. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    Sorry I missed it. I completely agree.
  3. A New World

    Revelation's Unfolding

    Maybe, but not biblically. You won't find the USA in Scripture.
  4. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    I agree but you seem to be ignoring a key point. The Southern Kingdom, Judah, remained in covenant with God until the end of the Mosaic age which occurred when she was judged in AD 70.
  5. A New World

    How can we be confident in our theories about the Book of Revelation?

    I understand your point but the solution is not to blindly interpret the Bible literally. The problem I see with many who claim to take a literal approach is they often end up missing the true intentions of the authors. Or, they inconsistently abandon their literalism to make a text fit their...
  6. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    The focus of Revelation was the judgment of the harlot mystery Babylon/Old Covenant Jerusalem and the end of that covenant age. She was declared guilty of killing the prophets and had filled up the measure of her fathers sins. In the pursuit of truth I think it's wise to say what Scripture says...
  7. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    Both mystery Babylon and first century Jerusalem would be judged for killing the prophets: Jesus said: "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city"...
  8. A New World

    Can The State Of Israel Be Destroyed!

    I think it's important to remember John's audience as identified in Revelation. It seems to me it's written to those of an earthly, not a heavenly, perspective. Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place...
  9. A New World

    Can The State Of Israel Be Destroyed!

    The Hal Lindsey guys? Are there still people who think he has credibility? Yes, it was about the end times. The apostles made it very clear that they were living in the last days (Acts 2:17; 2 Tim. 2:1; Heb. 1:2; James 5:3). They were living in the last time (1 Pet. 1:5; Jude 18). John even...
  10. A New World

    Can The State Of Israel Be Destroyed!

    I believe I have previously answered all of the objections you've restated here so there's no reason to go over them again. Not one word? Really? The entire context of the Olivet Discourse was the end of the age: Matthew 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him...
  11. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    Revelation 22:3 There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him; 4 they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. I believe the curse in verse three is related to the Law. Those who were under the...
  12. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    I will continue to rely on Scripture. Peter identified his first century audience: 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen There's no indication that he had anyone but...
  13. A New World

    Can The State Of Israel Be Destroyed!

    What you are still missing is the fact that no one could have been under the Mosaic Law or be enticed to return to the bondage of the Law if the Old Covenant had passed away at the cross. The Mosaic Law and the Mosaic Covenant were synonymous. Those coming to Christ by faith were looking forward...
  14. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    Peter doesn't contradict his earlier statement that the end was near. Since this passage doesn't support your opinion I'm interested in your other references. Please provide a few. What makes you think I throw anything away? I realize that the promises made to Old Covenant Israel in the Old...
  15. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    Please provide Scripture references from any of the New Testament writers that tell of far distant events not directed to their stated audiences. Are there any statements like, "The end of all things will occur many years from now?" Or, "Another generation of people will witness the end?"...
  16. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    Since your opinion doesn't seem to come from the text it's simply speculation. We know from the text that John informed his first century audiences that the events of the Revelation MUST SHORTLY TAKE PLACE (Rev. 1:1; 22:6)...FOR THE TIME IS NEAR (v. 1:3; 22:10). And we know that God told him to...
  17. A New World

    Preterist say I come quickly 70AD, Hmmmmmm!

    A literal reading of Rev. 1:19 causes one to understand the text differently than you've expressed. Notice the context of the Revealetion with regard to the timing of the events: Revelation 1:1,3 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly...
  18. A New World

    Can The State Of Israel Be Destroyed!

    I'm not missing anything. I realize the fact that Jesus became the sacrifice for sin and those who believed in His finished work would soon realize the fullness of the New Covenant kingdom age at His coming. What you're missing is the last days of the Old Covenant age which ended at the...
  19. A New World

    FULL Preterism....

    I think we all agree that God exists outside of time and space. Yet, He has revealed Himself through His Word, and He has clearly communicated regarding time with His creation which is limited by time and space. The inspired writers of the New Testament almost always identified their audiences...
  20. A New World

    Can The State Of Israel Be Destroyed!

    What? You have completely misunderstood my viewpoint to make this kind of statement. Let me summarize it for you. The Old Covenant age ended when the harlot was destroyed in AD 70. Her kingdom was given to another, New Covenant Israel, the church. The church is founded on the remnant, the...