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Thanks, will keep that in mind if I see that the Canons (written by Orthodox Bishops in council) state that they can be over written by an individual priest or Bishop then I will.

Then I'm about to see how I measure up :) Reading the Canons now. Very exciting!

I read that YOU claim that the Canons contract each other. Even if that's true and I don't know that it is, the Bible also contradicts itself...are you going to throw out the Bible, too? That's funny that you claim I'm "determined to declare" myself "a bishop" for wanting to read the Canons yet...

I only need to judge myself & judge what is best way to raise my family in the Truth as God revealed it and we know he revealed it to us through the inspired Sacred Scripture and the inspired Holy Canons. I believe there will be 3 possible discoveries I will make after I read the Canons...

Who authored the index of the Rudder? Was the index itself also produced via a Council? If not, then the index wouldn't be inspired as are the Canons themselves. (But honestly that is a pretty good description of what T.V. shows and movies are - the vast majority do promote lewdness &...

The Bible or Quran, the spiritual/historical & the Canons or Hadith, the how-to-live/behave books?

I'm sure it'll be enlightening and positively life-changing :clap: Do you know off hand what the total # of Canons there are in the Rudder? I'm trying to figure out how to divy up the reading of it. I've read 1,000 page novels in less than a week, but I think this will need to be...

the key word is "interpretation" why read into it what's not there - TV didn't exist in days the canons were written...(although I don't watch TV anyway) contradictions...those exist in the Bible as well...do you suggest we throw out the Bible too?

We're not in the Diocese of Denver. We do have many regular part-time & full-time volunteers, but you're right there was a 20 hr a week part-time minimum wage office assistant, so if she worked 52 weeks a year, you can take out $8,320. out of the approximately $441,000. a year "Salary" to...

no apology necessary at all. This thread this morning really got me to think about it though. Had no idea that the Canons forbid Church Festivals...that was new information for me. Now that I've pondered the whole thing, I totally get why - money shouldn't be our bottom line, but...

The Budget is published in the Monthly Newsletter: Just the Salary section: year to date (as of mid-September) actual Salary paid $301,467. but per the budget it should have already been $311,310. - in other words we're lacking, we need to pick up the pace of our donations to meet the salary...

What I hear you saying is that some of what the Church in Councils determined were to be holy Canons matter & some don't and it's up to the individual Bishop to decide what needs to be obeyed and what doesn't because they have the final authority to make these decisions. That sounds exactly...

Thank you for citing the actual canon youwere referring to. Sound pretty clear.on my way into work I thought about the purpose of these church festivals...to earn lots of money...why do we need so much money....to supplement the tithings and offerings & pledges our members struggle & sacrifice...

of course not. Just as quoting from the Bible is just fine. Your misinterpretation of the word tavern found in the Rudder for the word festival is your inadequate grasp of word definitions.

how do you get festival out of the word tavern? Their meanings aren't remotely close in definition. And you thing those actors you mentioned participate in"ludicrous" art? Oh boy! Look up definitions my friend and see what ludicrous actually is.

Someone suggested that I remain in the GOC regardless of the Ecumenism practiced by my parish priests with the permission of our Bishop - going to Catholic parish and participating in Catholic prayers which basically chanted the praises of the Pope having universal jurisdiction and the Holy...

Is it safe to assume we're all on the same page that the Canons, like the Bible, are inspired by the Holy Spirit and like the Bible, are to be interpreted by the Church as a whole and are not a matter for personal interpretation?

One of the two priests at my parish is clean shaven, the other keeps his trimmed.

Wonderful! If it came up, that priest probably accepted the correction gracefully as we all should accept correction...but it may not have come up at all. It's between the priest, the Elder and God :)

It was a priest, not a layman, who was told it's against the canons to cut the beard.