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    Scriptural Support for Free Will or Predestination

    No, they don't. What you think you know may be contradicted, but not with scripture,,not in the least. I've had the talk with much brighter people than both of us. It causes NO dilemmas, and it's the ONLY thing that makes sense, and I'm not the only one that has made the argument either, it's...
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    Stability and bible versions.

    well, I think that was VERY well explained.
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    Stability and bible versions.

    Go to www.bible.org and try the NET Bible translation. It's free to DL. the NIV is the only one that goes for the concepts as it does. Although other's try to get close. But that is inherent with risks of your personal theology getting in the way. If I'm really hittin the books on...
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    If faith is a gift from God...

    The smile had a reason. I did misss a 1 john connection in there somewhere, so it was totally off kilter. I just saw a topic that bugs me sometimes and assumed. And we ALL know how well that works out. I quit giving scripture here, because about twice, people have addressed it. Even...
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    Scriptural Support for Free Will or Predestination

    :-| Really? Why would you try to twist things to a false conclusion no one claimed? What you have here is a veritable, False DIlemma. Lived "BY" what he taught isn't even applicable here. Lived AS he taught would be, however, as I said, the Romans 7 vss about the struggle with the...
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    Stability and bible versions.

    I find it very safe to use. I think it's by FAR the prettiest version. The balance of beauty and translation hasn't been duped since. But, the JIM'S only people get me annoyed. As do the NIV IS EVIL people...
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    If faith is a gift from God...

    You mean, there is much that you haven't looked into exegetically and tested the waters on. :) I'll defend the position. There was no jew or gentile. I'm accepting psa 110 as commenting about Jesus, but I know it's arguable either way. However in the gospel where Christ draws...
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    Is free will really free?

    ??? I don't sit in a holy huddle waiting to get my back patted? I'm no doctor, but doctors don't refuse to see sick people either. ANd I'm not qualified for the GOD JOB of determining who is unregenerated and who isn't. It occurs to me, however, that those who really are unregenerated...
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    If faith is a gift from God...

    Christ all but admitted He was akin to Melchizedek. Melchizedek is who Christ's church is founded after. Mel was King of peace, Jesus is the Prince of Peace. Both are High Priests to God Most High. Both have a church that has neither Jew nor Gentile. Christ came and addressed the...
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    If LFW is true, how does sanctification work?

    and, seriously, I don't even know who I'm defending here... I'm really not defending ANYONE, just the principle of fair debate/conversation. I may be helping FreeGrace2 here, and I don't think they and I have agreed on anything but one line of one post. IF one group of "WE" has special...
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    If LFW is true, how does sanctification work?

    Bearing in mind, I can have you contradicting the Bible's words in three verses maximum, then defend it with the full context of the BIBLE, you are pretty dang bold to make such a pompous claim and pretend like "WE" whoever we are, your team? Your allies? Your coterie? Are right because you...
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    If LFW is true, how does sanctification work?

    Why, yes, in fact you have. You titled his request, removing the contextual request, and imposing a strawman term then used your strawman term/concept as justification to avoid the contextual request. I don't right you off when you pull the evasion stunt all the time, why would you put him...
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    If faith is a gift from God...

    If you abide my sola scriptura, then you can not abide by Sola scriptura, because Paul is the one that started tradition, and it was a command, not a suggestion. SOOOOoooooooooo this is awkward.....:doh:
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    Scriptural Support for Free Will or Predestination

    OH, and for the record, to be sure it's clear, in those verses Paul was not discussing himself, but the jewish people. It's called a historical present tense. it's common not made up. If we read it any other way, then Paul says some specific lies or contradictions depending how you view...
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    Scriptural Support for Free Will or Predestination

    sounds like you didn't read what he wrote. He was no longer in the flesh in 7:5. ANd if the Spirit indwells you, then you are not in the flesh. Sounds like you impose YOUR thoughts, over Paul's as the right ones. So, after Paul describes the issue, which is not even about him btw in...
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    How many here celebrate Halloween?

    I was trying not to rub people's face in it. I deliberately stayed out of the "christian christmas" conversation.... people get mad at me in those chats.
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    How many here celebrate Halloween?

    You are free to presume as you will. but the assumptions in your presumption are only right sometimes....
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    How many here celebrate Halloween?

    I don't think you can find that in existence until post "hallows eve". Or so I've read, I'm way to lazy to go examine all the histories myself to check their work.
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    Is The Church Really Losing Our Young Ones?

    Thomas was told he was blessed (they.... actually, not he) for believing what they have seen and witnessed, but the blessing would be greater for those who didn't see and still believed. My question is, after recording the stories as proof, why would he deliberately short your blessing by...
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    Is The Church Really Losing Our Young Ones?

    That's a whole other thread, but yeah, I have a working hunch on the question that is congruent with scripture and not off on some tangential nightmare....