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    The Necessity of Joseph's Stamp on Heaven's Passport

    The whole point of Christ, Christianity, & most early to later Christian Fathers, was to bring God down to man, so that men & women could be "raised up" to God. This early Christian doctrine is called, theosis, Christian moral perfection, deification, etc. The repeated phrase throughout the...
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    The Necessity of Joseph's Stamp on Heaven's Passport

    What I've noted that you're doing is a continual mud slinging game, bringing up different issues which you hope will vilify Mormons. You've got numerous threads now doing this. It only will cause more ill-feelings & harm to come on Mormons by those who might take your mud & turn them into bricks...
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    A Synopsis of Mormonism

    Yes, just take a look at how Atheists might depict Christianity, with the same types of methods. Or if an early anti-Christian were to present early Christian beliefs. Here's how it might look. "Hi, we're Christians, we are here to tell you how you can reach, & climb up the ladder to...
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    The Bible VS The Book Of Mormon

    More anti-Mormoning, on another thread, rehashing issues already answered: (You Tube: Bible vs Book of Mormon answered). LDS on this site have already been responding to Book of Mormon "issues" too. (See: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L), etc.
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    LDS did not allow blacks to hold the priesthood until 1978.

    What you're doing is the same types of tactics & "reasons" why not to believe, that Atheists & early to later anti-Christians have done, & that is find some weakness, mistake, or every case of bad breath that you can find, then focus in on them to in order to vilify your former faith. You claim...
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    LDS did not allow blacks to hold the priesthood until 1978.

    All these repeated haggles over prejudices, of those said to be denied this or that, is like what happened between early anti-Christians & early Christian apologists. The early anti-Christians brought up the same types of complaints: "You're not letting everyone into your secret meetings! You're...
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    LDS did not allow blacks to hold the priesthood until 1978.

    This passage, & others like them, in the Book of Mormon, ought to be considered in their historical settings, as to how the ancient Jews, early to later Christians, on down to our modern use of color symbolism; are still in use today. But of which uses, if literalized, would get a double look...
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    Man is god in embryo

    What part of the law that Christ makes reference too, is not indicated, at least in the passage of New Testament, John 10:24-39, note verse 34. It could have been Psalms 82:6, or perhaps some other passage: "Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former...
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    Man is god in embryo

    Though deification is not an obvious expounded upon doctrine or belief in Jewish sects, there seems to be possible hints to beliefs held anciently. Some Jewish writings speak of how the holy & pious ones would obtain immortality. The Holy One, in the future, in the world to come, will reveal the...
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    Man is god in embryo

    This concept, doctrine, theme about man (or women), are gods (or goddesses), in embryo, has been discussed here on different threads. So I wonder if things need to be repeated, or just links offered to them. See my comments here. Plus, this one, #2, #3, Other links to consider, A, B, C, D, etc...
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    LDS & Masonry & Claiming to be the Restored Church

    The claims to the LDS Church being a restoration, needs to be considered with what can be found in historic Christianity. Parallels between early Christianity are often ignored as different ones try to claim that LDS have "borrowed" heavily from Masonry, or that Joseph Smith "borrowed" from his...
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    [PERMANENTLY CLOSED] What does the LDS church teach about God's nature?

    Sorry I didn't get back with you earlier. Try: Also: The Internet Archives: What Are Official Mormon Doctrines? What Probably Are Not!
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    [PERMANENTLY CLOSED] What does the LDS church teach about God's nature?

    What eventually becomes "scriptures" & "official doctrines," in the Mormon church is always subject to changes allowed by prophets & apostles that come along, and at times, clarify, or put an end to different ways things might have been done in the past. The church is not subjected to things set...
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    Climate change, deforestation, mass extinction...

    Climate Change? Global Warming? Global Cooling? Which one is it? Why has the "problem" changed over the years? The fact is, any school kid can get it, it's so simple. As the earth turns & goes around in its orbit around the sun, it goes through different climate changes. When the sun "goes down"...
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    [PERMANENTLY CLOSED] What does the LDS church teach about God's nature?

    The ? is asked if Mormons worship a Divine Mother, as they do a Heavenly Father. That is an individual thing, which wouldn't be "out lawed" if some, if not many were to so do. However, there's not much revealed about "the Mother in Heaven," yet. But that is not to say that our modern prophets...
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    [PERMANENTLY CLOSED] What does the LDS church teach about God's nature?

    QUOTE="smaneck, post: 68387941, member: 269871"]Mind you, I am asking Mormons this question not Nicean Christians. I'd like to see a genuine discussion of Mormon beliefs and practices as defined by Mormons themselves, not its detractors. And I hope we will all observe the rule about not...
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    What's so bad about the Book of Mormon?

    ViaCrucis: "It is entirely erroneous to attempt to draw from the ancient fathers and the historic Christian teaching of theosis and use it to promulgate the LDS doctrine of exaltation. It is at best sincere ignorance or at worst insincere disingenuousness. Theosis is not apotheosis." Response...
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    What's so bad about the Book of Mormon?

    The Barrd: "Whatever. :doh: The notion that there are numberless gods out there, all born on different planets and all raised to their godhood by the god of those planets, and our God is just one of these gods, is beyond ridiculous. It borders on blasphemy. Indeed, I believe it is blasphemy."...
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    What's so bad about the Book of Mormon?

    The first three links #1, #2, #3, are to sources, debates, that include Christian ministers, & other souces to consider, they are not all Mormon sources. Thus, to reject them as "Mormon propaganda" shows you haven't looked at the information provided which includes two sided arguments &...
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    What's so bad about the Book of Mormon?

    The concept of deification, with early Christians being god-makers before Mormons, is part of historic biblical Christianity that has been covered on other threads on this site. But for now, here's some links to consider. #1, #2, #3. To declare Mormon's restored gospel versions of deification...