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Romans 1 who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and...

I found this article very good. Slightly off topic talking about election. Did God decree vessels of wrath ? Divine Election is Questioned (Romans 9:14-23) | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site

But ?

The selling of Joseph was a crime detestable for its cruelty and perfidy; yet he was not sold except by the decree of heaven. For neither did God merely remain at rest, and by conniving for a time, let loose the reins of human malice, in order that afterwards he might make use of this...

If it helps any, here is John Calvin's commentary. 20. "Ye thought evil against me." Joseph well considers (as we have said) the providence of God; so that he imposes it on himself as a compulsory law, not only to grant pardon, but also to exercise beneficence. And although we have treated...

What free will ?

You tell us.

Sproul - "while man’s freedom, though real, is limited and bounded" Arminians - "while man’s freedom, though real, is limited and bounded"

Not met anyone who claims total freedom or absolute free will. As such every Arminian theologian I have read agrees. Getting a bit wooly now. Why have the word "completely" ? Sproul - "while man’s freedom, though real, is limited and bounded" Every Arminian theologian I have read says...

"get lucky" - No. Not seen this in the Bible or any theologian expound it.

As with the 'luck' claim. Yet know one can find a theologian who has ever said this. As for light and darkness I1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was...

And what if he did "violate" some men's free will ? Least they had free will to violate. No one has ever claimed God is not omnipotent. So your luck idea is out.

I don't think God wants man to commit any sin. Just my opinion though. ? I did not have a question. It's your thread ! Is this you be patronizing.

Possible yes. probable ? who knows. Did they plan the same thing ? The brothers planned murder. If we go with God decreeing all things it could be argued that God did not plan the same otherwise it would of infallibly happened. Those who are against the puppet show would go with finite free...

Same with different varieties of Calvinism. Both Calvinism and Arminianism have evolved over the last 400 years. Try this site. Society of Evangelical Arminians

Me too.

Genesis 37:19[bless and do not curse]“Here comes that dreamer!” they said to each other. 20[bless and do not curse]“Come now, let’s kill him and throw him into one of these cisterns and say that a ferocious animal devoured him. Then we’ll see what comes of his dreams.” 21[bless and do not...

Think laterally.

NorrinRadd. Sproul is only a mere man. I have read his books so I know where you are coming from. Start a new thread and I will contribute. But this thread is about what we have in common. Peace to you.

I think you are being disingenuous,