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I'm leaving CF, so now I have more time to work on my goals. So, I guess consequentially I am going to stop wasting time (not saying anyone else is, im speaking for me). That's one rung.

Yeah, that's true, and honestly I don't even care that much about this thread I made. I only made it because I felt like making a thread that was new, that no one really talked about much. An article written by some liberal activist triggered me into making an argument that women should wear...

nevermind, i still think i have good points, i have to let go my ego, and say bye, I'm frustrated and I feel like this discussion is getting toxic. good day.

You've come off as offensive, you're ignoring my points, and that's kinda frustrating... but I can agree with you on one thing. I am wasting my time here. I still think you're wrong, and I think I'm allowed to talk about lesser issues sometimes, but I personally want to work in law enforcement...

Well, those people were intellectually impoverished, and did not know to wear more clothes in order to appear honorable. As for christian culture, it is God who established christianity, and it's the best religion ever, and will always be, it's better than all the religions. The religion of...

Are you willing to say that women who feel visually attracted to men's chests are inferior, and should not be accommodated. On a related note, I think women should wear shirts, and cover their breasts. So, for the sake of the man, they must wear shirts, right? Because men supposedly can't...

Actually, you seemed to be defending the idea that it's not shameful to be naked in public. Why not clothe them? That's what Jesus would want. It's good to clothe naked people. Women who experience attraction to men visually are barley a minority, and their temptations should be...

So, is there a verse in the bible that says women should cover their tops? Also, I think if we hold women to a certain standard, and women feel that a certain standard should be applied to men, then I'll wear a shirt for them. If a women asked a man to cover up, it seems like the right thing to do.

Go read Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe. Christian culture did great things for those tribal africans who would leave their babies in a forest to die if they had twins.

Clearly you've missed what I've been saying. I'll only repeat myself. Being naked is not a sin. Being a perverted running around to please yourself for some sick reason is sinful. Being naked, as an adult in public, is shameful, not something to be proud of, but not necessarily a sin. Honestly...

We are not the Israelites. If we are supposed to refrain from eating pork, then you should also say we should continue the animal sacrifices. I'm sorry, WHO said what? (haha, get it, W.H.O?) If we're talking about something being a sin, then what WHO says doesn't matter. Well, he did, but he...

I know of several restaurants that offer sushi, and more than a few that specialize in sushi where I live. I know of no one who has died from sushi. Also, I feel more connected to my culture when eating sushi.

When it comes down to knowing who God is, and the punishments described in the Torah it seems likely that a severe punishment would be imposed on anyone who rapes a person, not just a generational curse of being a servant to one's brother's. I'm not really making and huge assumptions. I'm...

I really like to eat some sushi with fish raw. This wont stop me :D

So, the explanation that Noah was raped, or his wife was, by his own child makes more sense? Like I said, if that did happen, then Ham would probably have been killed. What I said makes the most sense, since it takes into account what is actually written in the passage rather than a loose...

I think you've misread what I've been saying. I believe the act of being a perverse person is a sin, and being naked for some perverted reason is sinful. However, it is simply shameful to be nude in public, or for others to see generally speaking. It seems implied that Ham's sin was making fun...

There's a completely different context. Who was drunk? Noah. Noah is being referred to, and is drunk. And the the two brothers looked away from what exactly? Their mother's nakedness? She wasn't the one that was drunk. I think a plain reading of the text is necessary. We aren't speaking of Lev...

I don't quite understand what you mean. Noah was a man, and the passage clearly shows that Noah was simply nude, and this is evident because his two other sons covered him up. The mom was not in this situation, and if what you described happened, I'm pretty sure they would have straight up...

If you read the passage, it's about Noah(the father, not mother) being naked, and Ham is there making fun of him it seems, and his brothers cover up the nakedness of Noah, and look away while doing so. So clearly, it's about literal nakedness.

I think we can tell from the passage that it was Noah's nakedness, him appearing without clothing, which Ham make a spectacle of. As far as I can tell, he went to his father, and made fun of the fact he was drunk and naked. The fact that his two brothers had clothed Noah, while looking away from...