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In my classwork we studied a process called Catechuminate. The RCC is doing it these days. It is an old process of "growing" into one's Christianity through studies and mentorship before one is allowed to fully partake of the Eucharist and be a full member of the Church. I disagree with much...

:clap:Yes, I like that definition also. Let's do this from this point forward.:amen:

I know that it is impossible to ask John Wesley any questions, AND, for me, it seems that his language of his time period and ours changes just a bit. Just as GraceSeeker in his last post uses the word perfection, and you, Bryan use the word perfect, I see that perhaps the definitions do...

Okay, I guess we are ready to move on to sections 8-14. Shall we?

1. Are you married or single? Married 2. How big is your family? Big: 5 3. If employed, what sort of work do you do? government 4. Have you done anything else prior to what you do now? farming, construction 5. What is your highest level of education and what did you study? currently in master...

You are posting as if you believe that homosexual sex is new to humanity and they did not have it as an issue in the 1st century AD. Many denominations have such statements, including our own UMC. Yet, there is a strong movement to revamp that statement of incongruity with Christian doctrine...

I will call your attention to Jesus' encounter with the Canaanite woman with the daughter who was either demon oppressed or possessed. (Matthew 15 and Mark 7). BTW, I agree with GraceSeeker, God does not change, AND, He can and does show us that He changes His mind and makes a new decision...

Mr Gadfly, I don't think there is one here that does not believe that the Bible is first and foremost in our reading and studying to show ourselves approved by God. Yet, as Bryan so succinctly put it, there are other books by Christian authors that are worth reading for other insigths toward...

Great discussion and thank you, Redheadedstepchild. I agree with Bryan's and GraceSeeker's first post, if I am reading them correctly, in reading Wesley as a "head" Christian, not a "heart" Christian in 1725. He was searching for that which God's prevenient grace was leading him toward. I read...

Too funny! We both had the same idea at the same time! BTW, at CCEL it is free.

This thread will be to discuss John Wesley's "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection". It is available here: Plain Account of Christian Perfection - Christian Classics Ethereal Library Since it is going to be a rather lengthy and sometimes deep theological discussion, I suggest that we...

Amen to that. I have it saved on my work, home, and laptop computers. It is a little "light" reading when I have time to indulge myself. Shall the two of us start a study of it on the forum and discuss it in detail?

My interest in my theological studies is in/on holiness of the believer through Jesus. Interested? If so I can start a thread......

BryanW92, I am up for theological discussions that explore the deeper things of our Lord and Savior and our God. That is actually why I am here. In my classes online, we are restricted to the subject matter of the class and our professors do not let us stray from the academics of THAT class...

One of my favorite praise and worship songs......:amen:

Tell us, then, what you think. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?” But Jesus, aware of their malice, said, “Why put me to the test, you hypocrites? Show me the coin for the tax.” And they brought him a denarius. And Jesus said to them, “Whose likeness and...

Yes, I used it for lack of a better way of accurately describing the activities that many want accepted in the Christian faith. Most fundamental, evangelical denominations, in their statement of beliefs say that homosexual behavior is contrary to the Christian faith. My question, which I...

My home congregation has both the stars and stripes and the Christian flag in the sanctuary. I do not see it as inappropriate in a nation where freedom of religion is the guide. We are free to display it or not. In my opinion it is not against Christ or God to have either, both, or neither.

I will do that Maid Marie. I see him about every other week or so at work. On the 8th he and I are back in a class together. Apparently, from what he told me, he got cross ways with a guy who was both a hyper-calvinist and a moderator on the Christian Forums here and got kicked off the...

You are correct, WiredSpirit, there indeed is no consensus on the issue, like so many other issues that are thought to be sin by some, and not by others. The fact of the matter is, as Mr Gadfly said, the Bible clearly states that homosexual behavior is sin, no matter what the anti-sin...