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Either would suffice, OT God was not above turning whole cities to salt or punishing men until they did his will like Jonah or Onan.

The whole "Christian" world will legalize abortion. Nothing will stop it and God certainly isn't intervening.

Are you saying there should be no screening of men attempting to enter the priesthood? Because I guarantee, you probably wouldn't be talking about forgiving priests past if one of their sins were something related to pedophilia like they molested their younger sister in their youth or...

Mexico's elite are all Masonic anti Catholics, it's middle class liberal and going further Left and it's poor ignorant heterodox worshipping false saints based off pagan idols. Frankly I'm surprised they still haven't made gays federally mandated. Nice sarcasm btw OP, always good to know...

If a man who supported and assisted in abortions can prove that Jesus himself came to him and changed him then maybe they can be compared to Paul. Until then, the Catholic Church has every right to weed out pro choice priests, just like they attempt to do with gays and pedophiles.

I seems to grasp where Christians come from in terms of witnessing sin in others. At this point I suppose my only issue is accepting certain actions as sin even if logically they don't seem to do harm. To use a issue that effects typical Christians, would you agree that if you are generally a...

I suppose it just troubles me to be faithful to something that requires some to give up nearly everything while others must give up far less. Surely you'd agree that their a huge sacrificial difference between a heterosexual and homosexual? Like I have stated, the former can have romance...

Yes there is a difference and yes I accept that someone can be concerned for helping an addict while hating their addiction. Of course that doesn't change that when Christians do this scenario with gays you're replacing normal human desires for romantic love, family, and happiness with an...

It's true, both Western Europe and the USA need to accept polygamy as a legal form of marriage. Heck the Mormons have a whole history of social and government persecution for their polygamy views. However since polygamy is more a conservative type of sexual oddity, I doubt the LGBT will...

Mind explaining then how you intend to convert people with this non judging attitude? See my issue is that this "we're all sinners so live and let live." completely goes against the notion of evangelizing the Christian faith to non Christians, which I would think requires the Christian to point...

By all means provide a Catholic alternative view.

Also can anyone else vouch for this notion? Is morality just "might makes right" and God is mightiest?

And yet you worship a God who punishes child molesters with the same punishment as someone who doesn't go to Sunday Mass. There is no justice in that. Also a pedophile does notable harm to children, meanwhile a ideal gay family does no more harm than a ideal heterosexual family would do. And...

You agreed that gays and crack addicts were apples and oranges. However ISIS and God both torture people based solely on certain actions they find repulsive. However at least ISIS can only torture us in this life for a limited time. God intends to punish those he hates for eternity.

Obviously convince them to quit the destructive behavior. However the behavior of a gay monogamous family isn't destructive to themselves nor to others. It's only hated by God and it's God who ends up sending them to Hell over it, even if they're faithful to one another and raise a child...

Because you alienate your faith when you tell non Christians that gays are equal to crack addicts in your and God's eyes. Can you see why secularists don't tolerate Christian thoughts when they see crack addicts and a gay couple raising a kid as the same thing? Also do you push legal...

Here's the issue for me. Heroin is destructive in a earthly sense, it affects you in this world. Homosexual is a sinful life that can offer stability, romantic love, monogamy and a home for a child to be raised. So are you saying those three things are equivalent to a crack addict because...

For the family member scenario, I'd have to learn his motivation for doing this. The reason would determine whether I outright hate them or offer sympathy and help. Not sure what kind of middle ground there is. If he's stealing for say drug money I'd offer one chance to turn things around and...

The last part of my OP said my intentions were to receive convincing arguments to help myself. Yes I have a secular perspective, I came here to help myself regain a Christian mindset through discussion.

@MoonlessNight I suppose the notion of Christian love confuses me then. What does it mean to love an objectively horrible person like a serial killer? Why is it considered loving to believe a homosexual couple is going to burn in hell? It seems two faced of Christians to be nice to atheists...