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    Introduce yourself if you are new to the Seventh-day Adventists section of CF.

    Hi Pete, give the youth the message of the cross, that's the power (1 Cor. 1:18). blessings in Christ, John
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    Great tribulation....Sabbath Test?

    That's fine, then I may covet, have idols, dishonor my father and mother, kill, lie, commit adultery, except keeping the commandment to Remember the Sabbath (because we have forgotten), is now heresy. It's God's Sabbath, MY holy day. Never did He call it a Jewish Sabbath. Since the very great...
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    Great tribulation....Sabbath Test?

    Galatians 3 gives us a great insight pertaining to the law, and which law is being spoken, ceremonial or moral? Verse 19 reads, "For I through the law am DEAD to the law, that I might live unto God." The ceremonial law never in itself had power to slay anyone. Paul cannot be slain by a law...
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    Great tribulation....Sabbath Test?

    I agree, it is by grace through faith in Christ alone. The just shall live by faith. Now if Christ continually convicts of the Sabbath, again, and again, and again. So what you're doing is rejecting the Christ of the Sabbath. Are you then living by faith in Christ alone? No, because it all has...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    The seventh day of the week is not, and never was, the "Jewish Sabbath." This is unknown in Scripture. Read again: "The seventh day is the SABBATH OF THE LORD THY GOD" Ex.20:10 The Lord Himself calls it "MY holy day." Isa. 58:13, 14. The whole Bible, with the exception of two books of the New...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    I have posted some others things regarding Gentiles keeping the Sabbath in the Old Testament (Isa. 56:6,7). Abraham was a Christian, for He believed in Christ. Gal. 3:8. He preached Christ, expand the Bible, you don't have to throw away the half the Bible (Old Testament), which is NOT the Old...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    The Bible does, however, mention Sabbath-keeping in connection with the GENTILES who are "STRANGERS from the commonwealth of Israel." God says: "Also the sons of the STRANGER, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, every one that...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    The old ceremonial sabbaths quote, please. There are two covenants: Gal. 4:21-24. The two covenants were in the family of Abraham. For "these women are two covenants." Vs. 24. The covenants are not matters of time, but a condition of the heart. Those under the law, are the ones who do not keep...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    I came out of Sunday keeping churches. I worship Jesus Christ as my Savior and Lord and constrained by His love for me (2 Cor. 5:14). But you must decide, does the Bible talk of setting aside "one day in seven" or the "seventh day"? Was Abraham saved by law keeping or by the "lamb slain from the...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    I don't think one scripture proves your point regarding the Sabbath. All the philosophical reasoning does not make a point for me dear sir. If you want to prove something, scripture will do the job more effectively, with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Show me the case against the following...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    testing, been a awhile!
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    Greetings, There never has been any salvation in the Old Covenant, the moment one accepts the "prophecy" of the "New" he/she is a new creation. That was since the beginning. Abraham "believed", therefore, he accepted God's New Covenant. Another compact--called in Scripture the "old"...
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    The Sabbath, a sign of the Old Covenant and more...

    EGW, 1888 Materials, p. 640--"Night before last I was shown that evidences in regard to the covenants were clear and convincing. Yourself, Brother Dan Jones, Brother Porter and others are spending your investigative powers for naught to produce a position on the covenants to vary from the...
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    The Law was added until the Seed...

    Ok brother, so Christ fell asleep for your sins, who took the wages of sin for you which is death? Who died the second death for you, which is the curse? For Christ to take the penalty He actually has to pay the penalty. Stephen did say something else, (Acts 7:51).
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    The Law was added until the Seed...

    Furthermore, no one was ever saved under the old covenant. There never was and never will be salvation under the old covenant. The old covenant are the promises of the people to save themselves and keep their broken promises. The new covenant are the promises of God to write His law in our...
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    The Law was added until the Seed...

    You state correctly, the wages of sin is death, not sleep. Christ did not go to sleep on the cross. Stoning is not the 2nd death, it's sleep. Here is the cross (death). "And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death ... and thou HANG HIM ON A TREE, but thou shalt in any wise bury him...
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    The Law was added until the Seed...

    Dear Brother, Christ was at Sinai, for He was the "lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8). Grace was given to Adam and Eve in the Garden. Abraham preached the gospel, "God ... preached before the gospel unto Abraham ... In thee shall all nations be blessed" (Gal. 3:8; Gen...
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    Was There a Temporary Universal Justification For ALL MEN?

    "All have sinned, … being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Romans 3:23, 24, KJV). "All alike have sinned, … and all are justified by God's free grace alone" (NEB). "The judicial action … issued in a verdict of condemnation, but the act of grace …...
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    The Law was added until the Seed...

    Yes, not sure what Chris was getting at, although we know that Waggoner was correct on his position since the SOP was shown he was right. Of course the Bible itself is clear as daylight concerning the added law is the spoken law. Not sure if I would equate the punishment for a child from the...
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    7th Day Adventists and Pacifism

    Have you considered the Sabbath? Impossible to keep in the military. Do Christians fight? Yes ... "fight the good fight of faith" 1 Tim. 6:12 It also depends on how we define PATRIOTISM. Let us be christian patriots, if you will. The word Patriotism has become a huge stumbling block since...