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Fish and meat isn't as strict as meat and dairy meaning you don't have to have separate stuff.

See that's key, from a Jewish perspective. I'm sure most non Jews when they came to The Lord their family didn't practically disown them. With Jews it's different.

Tishri I didn't mean for the post to be discriminate, I was just sharing a real like example. The real life example doesn't portray what I believe. My concern is for the Jews who may look here and/or lurk here because of the conception already instilled. This is what my parents would be...

According to Jewish law you're not to mix meat and dairy such as a cheeseburger.

With all due respect that's a misrepresentation of Qnts2. I think Qnts2 are on the same page. What we are saying in general is that most here are wanting to create their own version of Messianic Judaism. Messianic Judaism is what it is, good or bad. That's why the likes of the CTMOC were...

I was asking because you said you were part of the Jewish community. Exactly. However Judaism and Messianic Judaism are pretty much in line. Exactly. What I'm saying is that if you want to claim to be part of the Jewish community in which Messianic Judaism seeks, then it's contrary to both...

Ok maybe I don't know then, are you Jewish? What the MJAA and UMJC advocates is being part of the Jewish community because 'we are part of the Jewish community' and believe in the beliefs pertaining to Judaism as the Jewish community because we are Messianic Judaism. You're totaling...

You're missing the whole point. You don't need the MJAA or UMJC to give you permission to observe Torah. The point is the MJAA and the UMJC for a fact want to and seek to be part of the Jewish community. If you don't care about wanting to be part of the Jewish community that's fine.

I didn't ask what the non believing Jewish community thought, I asked you what are your thoughts about Messianic Judaism seeking to be part of the Jewish community because 'we are part of the same community'.

Ok great. What are your thoughts that Messianic Judaism seeks to be part of the Jewish community they are existing in? Is the Jewish community wrong in their beliefs about Gentile participation? If yes then this is what Messianic Judaism seeks and what it is. If not then you can't call...

It's not anti Gentile agenda by any means. We are not advocating non Jews and Torah so don't even go there. There's no advocating that Gentiles should remain the the Church either. There's no advocating that Jews are superior in the Messianic community. So don't even go there. What's being said...

Personal attack? I'm just giving an example. You said you were part of the CTOMC. That's not a personal attack. CTOMC doesn't relate itself to mainstream Messianic Judaism. Again it's not not a personal attack. The CTOMC was created for a reason and one of the reasons is One Law compared to...

Looks to me like you are advocating you're own version of Judaism per se. Nothing wrong with that but you have to be careful how you represent. Judaism isn't One Law. Judaism is one law meaning how the Law applies to Jews and non Jews, this is the representation of Judaism as it pertains to...

Is Judaism larger than just Jews? What I'm saying is there is mainstream Messianic Judaism and off shoots of the mainstream. In this case of the forum I don't see a problem with this forum being an off shoot of Messianic Judaism. Whether you like it or not Messianic Judaism doesn't advocate One...

I don't think we are trying to push anyone out of the faith. What we are suggesting is a name change so it wouldn't be confusing to Jews who read this board. I understand mainstream Messianic Judaism is in line with Judaism in regards to Gentile believers, it is what it is whether right or...

I have to agree in a name change because it presents something that it's not. I don't want to sound harsh but are we here to present our own version of Messianic Judaism or are we here to present an off shoot of Messianic Judaism? As an example there are many denominations that left the main...

I'm leaning towards that myself. Ezekiel Temple is located on a high mountain and not actually in Jerusalem.

Interesting that the Temple described in Ezekiel is HUGE compared to the 1st and 2nd Temple's.

Yes the 144,000 Jews preaching the Gospel.

I agree. However the administration of the priesthood will be changed in the Messianic Age. It won't be the Law of Moses renewed. Even sages agree on this.