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Once again for those here thinking Ware is within the tradition, Do you, or do you not think that homosexuals can be celibate? This is the third or fourth time I've asked this question. I will assume silence speaks consent, and the answer is, "no, they cannot."

Can we expect homosexuals (and by extension, single people) be celibate?

Thank you and I would agree. We do need to articulate better our beliefs and teachings.

Is there another position?

Can you expect homosexuals to be celibate? (and by extension, any unmarried person) Please answer this question. After all, his emminance is asking this question.

I would also like to see those here who think Ware is within the tradition to respond to this: Metropolitan Kallistos and The Wheel – No Other Foundation

Absolutely. I would agree with you that the group counseling alternative would be helpful for other passions as well. Another great passion that many people struggle with especially with the advent of the internet is inappropriate contentography. inappropriate content is a huge problem across the board that doesn't get talked...

Thanks for answering Fr! I am hoping that those who think Ware is staying within the tradition also answer this question. I would say though that there might be possible living arrangements in which someone who is not a monastic, but is celibate and struggles with SSA could live in that would...

If you scroll back to the early part of this tread, you'll see a partial possible solution I suggested. I've also suggested other alternative living arrangements, and group counseling done by and for Orthodox Christians struggling with SSA, but I have not seen those who think Ware or anyone else...

That's a pastoral issue that quite frankly should be discussed between a bishop and his priests. But, once again, Ware is asking a very specific question. Can We Expect Homosexuals To Be Celibate?" We await the answer to that specific question from those here who think Ware is "keeping with the...

"He asked can we expect homosexuals (or anyone else who is not married because this question can very easily be applied to them) be celibate?" Please answer this question. Just in case I was not clear before, hopefully this repetition will make it very clear.

Right. One could also pose a similar question along the same lines as Ware. For example, can the Church expect single people to be celibate? What if someone never marries? Can we expect them to be celibate? I'd like to ask anyone here who thinks what Ware is asking is perfectly fine to come out...

Yes, I would add that it isn't just the silence alone, but the lack of action and consequences. That as the saying goes, speaks louder than words.

Those are great questions, I for one think the Church across the board does not deal with sexual sins very well, very consistently, or very clearly. I think that's partly why we are seeing this phenomena. I said before that this will continue to be a problem until we hear very clear...

You're not confused at all, you are 100% correct and yes, the view of the sacrament of confession is very similar. However, we unfortunately have voices within the Church that wish to muddle the waters so to speak, and we have people here who defend these people and try to make the claim that...

This is going to continue to be a problem until our hierarchs show clear, decisive speech and action in response. Until then we will continue to see and hear of such things as this.

Nope, not what I said nor implied. You really gotta re-read what I wrote. It is you though who seem to be all doom and gloom about my proposal. It's really bothering you, isn't it? You cant seem to accept it as a legitimate alternative. You keep insisting on the brotherhood rite thing and that...

You are ignoring some pretty important points that I've made repeatedly yet you still don't seem to be getting it. So you are either not comprehending what I am saying, or you are ignoring them because it doesn't fit your pre-conceived idea that you are adhering to. Before asking me what are...

I said something to that affect in the original post in which I first mentioned my idea. It won't be for everyone. But I could see it as a pastoral or an economia for an individual depending on his or her needs.

Ergo, my solution!