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Oh, so he has a split personality? Wonderful. I'm guessing you're a calvinist. If that's so, can you tell me why I should want to follow this God who wills my life to be garbage then?

I would say most people are "forced" (maybe not the best word) to accept what they do about God in one way or the other. You don't really choose your beliefs. Experience, people, words, the bible (in this case) and life shapes how you arrive at your beliefs about the world. I accept what life...

If God creates, wills and causes evil, then by definition, he would have to be evil. There's no other way around it logically.

I accept it in God because I have no choice. With people, I can choose to reject people who are debbie downers. God is stronger than we are. As Paul said, "Do we provoke God? Are we stronger than he?" Of course not! So what's the point? It's like a child picking a fight with an adult or...

Then what was your point? :confused:

Anybody of any faith - or lackthereof - can pray.

Yes. It's actually quite horrifying, when you think of it. Essentially, it makes God evil.

If that's meant for me, sorry. I'll have to learn how to stop standing up for myself and let women walk all over me. Yeah, they really respect that. :/

No, he forgave mine - and every other person to ever live on this planet's - sins 2000 years ago when he died. That is a done deal. But I don't feel like getting into a theology debate over this.

I said FOR ME, not for others. We're all on different paths. Genocide was apparently God's will for the Jews at one time, but not for us. Get it?

We can guess. I like to brainstorm. I'm an intellectual so I like to think a lot and theorize.

That makes sense. Except I'm not negative as a rule. Mostly online and mostly just about this. I'm actually quite the positive encourager in others' lives, specially in real life. Even if my life sucks, I can still bless and be of benefit to others. Isn't that what the christian life is all...

A little secret: If someone is dead set on doing it, NO ONE can stop him or her from doing it. What stopped me is that I actually like life, despite everything about it being rubbish. If you can find the "why" you can bear almost any "how" Nietszche said.

Right, so God controls satan, and thus, evil and suffering. Great.

Your point was well understood ages ago. I got it. Strawman indeed... you defend your brethen because you are just like them.

Hey, I'm not perfect yet either. If I was, then you'd all have to listen to me. :D But I'm not. Not yet anyway, but I'm working on it. :) I didn't say I liked myself or everything I do all the time either. But I also feel it would be wrong to lie and pretend God is not behind our sufferings...

In what context? I don't know what you're asking.

I don't know, why not?

Right, so being rude to people is okay. Got it. There is no contradiction. You're just seeing what you want to, to try and take the moral "high" ground. It's not working. :/

I never said it wasn't. I just said I would hope to be more kind. You can't just do one nice thing for someone ONCE, while either ignoring them forever after that or repeatedly doing bad things to them after that. In real life, like a marriage, etc., that would obviously not be a very good...