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  1. minique

    Are women treated unfairly in the Bible?

    I completely understand where you are coming from with this. I’ve been there myself. Here’s what I learned after studying women in the Bible: Throughout history countless men have viewed and treated women as inferior. However, the way that men very often treat (or mistreat) women DOES NOT...
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    Wives vs submission to husbands vs submission to Jesus

    You, like so many others, are treating Eph 5 like it exists in a vacuum when it does not. Eph chapter 5 is part of ALL SCRIPTURE - the whole counsel of God. ALL SCRIPTURE is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, (2 Timothy 3:16). I simply...
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    Wives vs submission to husbands vs submission to Jesus

    There's a tendency in the church to treat Eph 5 and a few other so-called marriages passages as if they exist in a vacuum, but they don't. They are part of the whole counsel of God. With that being said, the Bible teaches that men also represent the church. After all, the church (bride of...
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    Wives vs submission to husbands vs submission to Jesus

    The dynamics are not the same. The analogy between Christ's relationship with the church and the husband and wife relationship is a limited one. There are some things that take place in Christ's relationship with his church that do not take place in the husband and wife relationship, and vice...
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    Wives vs submission to husbands vs submission to Jesus

    There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens (Ec 3:1). With that being said, there are times and seasons in a marriage when a husband should listen to (defined as obey) wisdom from his wife. The Bible illustrates that some degree of mutual obedience in a...
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    Rebellious Women

    The U.S. Senate approved the change in Selective Service eligibility this week. Women must register with selective service in order to get financial aid for college. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-draft-20160619-story.html
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    Rebellious Women

    Submission is not oppressive? Well, that really depends on the situation. However, I would like to thank you for recognizing and acknowledging that marriage is not a dictatorship. I also want to thank you for acknowledging that leaders are servants. I have read or participated in various forums...
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    Rebellious Women

    The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." Genesis 2:18 The Hebrew phrase for "helper suitable" is ezer kenegdo. One of the definitions listed for kenegdo (Strong's 5048 neged) a. כְּנֶגֶד according to what is in front of =...
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    What is Love?

    I totally agree.
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    What is Love?

    I'm not surprised that this thread hasn't gotten any responses so far. Religious people are way more concerned with wifely submission than they are with love. I specified wifely submission because religious people generally aren't as concerned with other forms of submission (to God, earthly...
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    Rebellious Women

    I read some of Spark's article when he first posted it. It's a bit lengthy, so I didn't read it all, but he raises some good points.
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    Rebellious Women

    Gentleness (being soft, tender) caring and love are not feminine virtues. Gentleness, caring and love are unisex virtues. Gentleness, caring and love are part of the Christian lifestyle regardless of gender. The problem with promoting unisex virtues as uniquely or primarily feminine is that it...
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    Rebellious Women

    This thread is very reminiscent of the woman caught in adultery. The Pharisees had no problem accusing the adulterous woman, but let the man go unpunished. It was impossible for her to commit adultery by herself. Likewise, some men (and women) don't mind metaphorically stoning so-called...
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    Rebellious Women

    Really? Domestic violence against women is an epidemic, and it's happening in a lot of supposedly Christian homes, yet the church almost NEVER calls men out on that. Christian-based LifeWay Research recently conducted a study called In church, a taboo topic: Religious leaders try to break...
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    Rebellious Women

    Likewise, too many men these days are living in rebellion. Likewise, a lot of men don't love their wives like Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, and a lot of men ARE disobedient to God's word. Likewise, a lot of men will go to the lake of fire, unless they repent. A lot of...
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    Genesis, how are women supposed to be treated?

    unrelentingfortruth said: If this is true how am I, as a woman, supposed to ever want to get married because I am no slave to anyone and don't wish to be ruled over by a man. That's a very important question and consideration. The decision to marry and deciding who to marry are two of the most...
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    Genesis, how are women supposed to be treated?

    unrelentingfortruth said: So I suppose this is my question, are women permanently punished forevermore by being ruled over by men? OR is it that only once they are married they are to be ruled by their husband, but not by men in general? To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your...
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    Genesis, how are women supposed to be treated?

    As a Christian woman I can certainly understand where you are coming from. There was a time when I pondered the same questions, and I did exactly what you are doing; I sought Biblical answers. unrelentingfortruth said: I don't understand how I can live knowing I am born simply to be ruled over...
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    The fall of mankind = Gender inequality

    So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals (Gen 2:20A). The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man." Gen 2:23 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the...
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    leadership

    I originally responded to dayhiker by accident. It was a simple click of the wrong button. My comment was meant for memoriesbymichelle because she raised the issue in comment #31. I do not wish to debate anything. I read threads, but I rarely ever comment. I think I've commented about 20 times...