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Jesus was God in the flesh. Michael is an archangel. He is the commander of the heavenly army. He is not Jesus and Jesus is not him. Period. All the attempts at getting people to see it otherwise is based on your own perception of the scriptures, although it is clear that the two are seperate.

I've been discussing it for 4 pages. :confused:

I only knew what you were saying, and you said "everything." If you didn't mean literally everything, you should have made that clear. So no, that was not sarcasm. Ah, no big deal. ; This makes little sense. First you say you're not ascribing the origin of evil to god, yet then say he...

Hmm, interesting, but you like the others in this thread are too smart for your own good. So because "men" declared the Bible as God's Word in the sixteenth century, this now makes it God's Word. I laugh at that notion. Like I told Unshaven, you are arguing with human logic, man-made traditions...

What I am not getting with you is how you can completely disregard and throw away scripture and still claim to have knowledge of them. Also, what makes their minds greater than ours? Seriously, were they deeper, ha I laugh at the notion. You say greater minds than us have concluded this, really...

So then what is it because of? The absence of good? Really :D wow. That made me laugh. Listen, anything and everything that God created, that has life, that exists, is an entity of its own. Emotions, atoms, neutrons, protons, humans, animals, wisdom, scientific laws, knowledge, must I go on...

Not specifically named, but you started your last post with a reference to an early century church idea. What I'm suggesting, even if I could, does in no way fly in the face of scipture. No offense I could really careless about tradition or reason, I base everything on scripture and scripture...

So God created a place of darkness, where He is not found. Is this what you are saying? Why not? I know, I was just stating what some of us were taught as children. Where is this in the Bible? A place called rebellion, hmm, if this 'was' accurate, I wonder who created it. lol ;) Yes...

Lol, I didn't want to get that deep yet. I was on my way there though. :)

I think the problem here is that we rely too much on so called Bible scholars, who are just as opinionated and egotistical as any of us. Many of their writings and ideas are just that "their writings and ideas". As a true Christian, I hold fast to the only source of information, knowledge, and...

Ah, but you didn't answer my question and I didn't answer yours, so... Yes I trust King James to have accurately translated the Bible and I do not agree that your break down of the word create is even remotely accurate. :thumbsup:

Amen :D but what is your point in compliance with the thread?

The reason I say free will is another topic is because, if you are having a hard time with this topic, you would really think I'm crazy with the free-will topic, so we won't even go there. I've been given revelation on the topic. Am I deeper, yeah right, not even close, but I did inquire of...

So what is your point here?

You knew I meant every living thing, no need for sarcasm. ;) You see that's where you are missing it. I am not ascribing the "origin" of evil "to" God. God says he created it and left it there. Yes it is not matter, but going by that same reasoning that means that God didn't create emotions...

LoL, your attempt at teaching me how to break down Bible scipture fails. Putting "cut down" as you say in Isaiah, doesn't even make sense. "I cut down darkness" "I cut down calamity" What does that even mean my friend. I think you're reaching and trying to find a way to discredit the Word of...

Those posts are riddled with inconsistencies, speculations, and off-based perceptions. Why don't we talk about my post above. Should be an interesting discussion.

I agree 100% with Manasseh. What you have been taught is wrong. Believe me, I grew up believing the same until God and my Pastor, cleared it up for me. For you and others not to see or accept what the Bible is clearly saying shows you are not ready to accept God's word as a whole. You are...

I would have to say that annihilationism is the untrue term. The Bible definitely states that Hell is an ongoing, conscious, punishment, however, I digress, that was not your question. What happened to Jesus upon death? Speculation has him going down to hell and snatching the keys of hell from...

I definitely believe in the Trinity, but also that they are all one, but that's another discussion. I'm also familiar with annihilationism and many groups attempt to making the punishment of the wicked not as bad as the Bible claims it to be. Consider this. The first death is simply the...