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dumb question- assumes alot, don't it?

....which are?

Soul sucking angles and invisible sea dragons... this place is Awesome!!!! I'm taking the whole family there for vacation next year... dog's coming, too.

will do

massochist: 'hit me' sadist : 'no'

agree... the contention between science and religion is the value placed upon different types of belief/knowledge.

When you state that there is a correlation between atheism and wrongdoing, its either a meaningless statement, or it's a statement asserting a causal connection between the two. You said there actually is something about atheism which would influence Stalin to do terrible things: i.e. you...

If you concede that the point of establishing atheism is not his ultimate goal... that it was not the cause of his atrocities, you've made your point. But why even make the point? You've just conceded that atheism has nothing to do with his crimes against humanity.

that's funny, you can't say O My Goodness?

[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]!! THEYRE THE SAME! (I heard it might be better to encourage, not discourage, the delusional) "Biblical faith = faith based upon evidence, short of absolute proof" "Faith is confidence or trust in a person or thing...

Why put 'Biblical' or 'Scoffer' or 'Straw' in front of faith? Is it because you acknowledge your conception of faith is NOT universal or understood by 'all mankind'? I'm not talking about anything other than a straight-forward, unambiguous, agreed upon meaning of faith. Do we really have...

LOL! (hehe....sorry, my mind's in a gutter or something, just ignore)

AMAZING Question: What is true faith? How can you claim that scripture defines a universal understanding of faith? If this is what you are trying to allude to, then you can definitely have faith without science: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things...

Yep, pretty depressing.

Evolution spurred everything that humans have ever done, including christianity;) It's definitely a deal breaker. I'd feel the same about any group that professes things I believe are absolutely wrong. If I couldn't affect change in a group like that, it would seem mutually beneficial to...

Speaking on faith is tricky unless people can agree on what faith actually is: It is the acceptance of propositions to be true and valid, void of any reason or evidence. As soon as there are reasons and evidence, it's not faith; it's a hypothesis, a speculation, an assumption, a theory...

You said it yourself, right here.

Whoa, I can see where this is going to go. If that's your reason for thinking testimonial evidence is strong, you've really missed the boat and I'm probably wasting my time. Testimony is A means of learning, not THE means. Maybe that is how you became so confused about this topic. Also...

It's obvious you want to ignore or misconstrue my point: asserting that we exist or that our conscious lives are real is contingent upon believing some things are true (otherwise we might as well just argue about whether we're in the Matrix all day). This is the level of faith I'm alluding to...

IMO, it's just a symptom of arbitrary social values conflicting with innate behavioral differences in men and women. What makes it an 'issue' is that people in a society are acutely aware of the moral standards (either stated explicitly or inferred implicitly) and tend to defend those values...