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Loudmouth said Because the deck of cards is an arbitrary group that has been placed together under a false assumption that vertebrates and smaller subsets such as mammals also evolved only once. Therefore, one can have a large set as a group, eg all the species that have eyes and are...

In a deck of cards, any card that does not have a spade, heart or club symbol on it forms a group because it is different. There you go. It wasn't that hard with a little thought! ;)

The resson evolutionists are unable to to distinguish between groups is because they have classified everything according to the assumption of common ancestry. Science needs vocabulary and terminology. To classify or identify a group, vertebrates, due to similarites is fine. To discuss various...

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Loudmouth said Well you are basing your entire challenge on rubbish. Creationists group on similarities as well as differences eg why a fish is not a whale although they both swim in water, why a human should not be classified as an ape although they are both primates and mammals. It is...

Again an evolutionist demonstrates their high level of reasoning ability!:confused: Loudmouth does not want a word mentioned in relation to traits or defining some kinds, which I have done. He wants a creationist to tell him the differences between the suits of cards. The difference is that...

Loudmouth said The makers of the cards have already done that. They are called suits! ;) No Loudmouth, I have given exactly what you requested and now you are disengaging with reality to stand your ground.

Rubbish. Indeed I bolded the differences you silly person. and related them to card suits as requested :confused: eg a fish does not have a blow hole. Indeed I refered to similarities as well as differences and that is exactly what you evos do as well as I...continuity and discontinuity...

In short LittleLambofJesus, reversed hallux refer to bird feet, It is an modern avian signature.

Loudmouth I have grouped playing cards based on differences. I again hate to be the one to tell you that there are no traits that look like the suits on cards. So how does one group if not to use traits? This is where you, Loudmouth, look rather foolish and will continue to do so. You do...

I would like to draw everyone attention to Loudmouths post above. Loudmouth in his desperation to save face is now requesting that creationists demonstrate group traits that are akin to diamonds, clubs, hearts or spades. :confused::confused::doh: This reply is proof positive that this thread...

LittleLambofJesus..Loudmouth has surely demonstrated not only does he not know what he is talking about and is gobsmacked that a creationist can discern kinds, but he is also looking to get his pride back. I think I have driven Loudmouth insane! ^_^

Loudmouth, it may surprise you to learn there are no traits that look like a diamond, spade, club or heart. You also will not be able to name any to demonstrate cladistics either. You are being ridiculous, and everyone can see it. You are not sane. You have moved the goalpost because now you...

Do you remember me sayng this? "Loudmouth regardless of this ridiculous idea I have done as you asked. You are simply going to keep moving the goal posts. It is about similarities as well as differences. Hopefully, you are not that disengaged with reality that you are hoping I can describe a...

Re your last post..you intentionally left out the best bit ..."Birds are a group"......."that have a reversed hallux", as well as the rest of my post. Good one Loudmouth. Ignorance becomes some people. You actually hate the fact that I have done this so much so that you are prepared to...

Loudmouth regardless of this ridiculous idea I have done as you asked. You are simply going to keep moving the goal posts. It is about similarities as well as differences. Hopefully, you are not that disengaged with reality that you are hoping I can describe a creature that looks like a club or...

But Loudmouth..It doesn't work for you. Look at the messes I have presented. You may want it to work, you may hope that these messes are based on science, but they are not. You are forgetting that evolutionists have difficulty picking the human out of a bunch of apes. You will argue and go...

Come on Loudmouth. Show us all how it is done. Show us all it can be done. Just demonstrate any part of any of your clades for us with your cards. Are there any betting creationists around? What's the bet that Loudmouth has no idea what he is talking about.

1. I gave Loudmouth a prefectly good example in birds. It is his problem if he thinks his card analogy is a scientific method. 2. Loudmouth is unable to provide a demo himself and likely never will. 3. I've never had an evolutionist demonstate a clade using chop sticks either and I bet they...

Loudmouth....OK so I get it. You think your card analogy is a scientific method. I thought so. This is the usual fluff thread constructed to demonstrate how intelligent evolutionists are. :idea:We get it! This is why Loudmouth himself will never give a demo because he also cannot. It is a...