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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    So, it's ok to use the term "counter-intuitive", then? And the fact remains that no one knows that god does exist. Some claim he does exist, but they only believe it... hence my original question remains unanswered. :( I don't have a problem with faith... I must have said it before: I have...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Buggers.... :( Not that it will have an impact in my lifetime, but still: It's not a very happy perspective. How would you have light come from every direction, then? Energy is conserved. The bit that escapes does so by neutrons, fast particles and photons (and perhaps some more others). They...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Intuition is the built-in knowledge we have about the world around us. It is what makes us retreat in the face of danger. What makes us brace for impact when we see impact is inevitable. What makes us put our hands first, when falling. What makes us reject very bitter food, etc, etc, etc. Anyone...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Can't you ever get my nick right?! :clap: About that essay concerning the "purpose of evolution". One can state, without being too philosophical, that evolution has as much purpose as gravity, for example. Does gravity have a purpose to exist?
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    It's not a one-to-one rule, no. But it's a rule that tends to happen. No I did not have such experience. And you're right, I don't trust Lewis' conclusion. Why not? simply, because it goes against my own experience of "absence of divine intervention"... and knowledge of the potential of the...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Science requires god for the physical world to work the way it does? And you're mixing prophets (OT) with whatever were those who wrote the NT.... scribes? Some states and some countries execute, yes... not all... not most. However, today everyone is entitled to a trial (in some countries, at...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Don't distort what others say, please. All "evidence" of phenomena that happens inside people's minds is subjective. If anyone had proper experience of god in the physical realm, would there be any need for faith? That's not the way I reasoned, but yes, you're right. The way I see it, you make...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Did you notice that all those papers you mentioned are from 10 years ago? Try some of the papers in the wiki page about it. ;)
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Curious, isn't it? How about neutrinos? I'm sorry, but I didn't understand this very well... In vacuum , light travels at the speed of light in vacuum (commonly called 'c'), which is very close to the speed of light in air, but not quite. Considering we're in vacuum, regardless of the speed of...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    I was assuming infinite time, literally: the Universe has ALWAYS been there. So on any line of sight, you'd get infinite stars... at least some would still be seen now... I guess. CMBR is supposed to be the remnants of the big bang: God calls us that? and you're ok with it? And he wants us...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    10 years ago, you would be right.... but then someone discovered that dark matter is in a lot more places than previously thought. Dark matter is currently under hot debate. There's still no consensus as to how much of it there is, but they know it's there and it affects other bodies we can see...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    indeed. We were just supposing what would happen if the universe had always been around, with no big crunch-big bang cycles.
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Yes, but you have infinite points in any direction, so, postulating that the universe has always been here, any such direction will have had infinite sources of light traversing it and odds are that, at this moment, for any direction, we should see at least one of them. At least, that's how I...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    If the universe has always been here and no big crunch has ever happened, then all bodies in space will have occupied pretty much everywhere at some point and, supposing most of them emitted light, you'd see light coming from all these places. So you'd get a roughly uniform background of...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    There's no proof of evolution? I think you should visit this section of the forum if you wish to discuss evolution with someone: Creation & Evolution - Christian Forums As far as this thread is concerned, evolution happened and is happening all around us. Just ask any hospital staff about MRSA.
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Here goes one of my famous questions: How does whoever wrote this know that? or not the standard relationship with god... How did that person get to know that it's the "only game in town"? Other religions might differ in opinion.... Something someone who's indoctrinated would say... a...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Someone claimed to have had such experience. I can't disprove it so, I'll just accept it as it is. Subjective experience Note the difference between "having the concept of divinity" and "being christian (or some other religion)". The concept is always there, you just have to be born in this...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    I see... you're right there... It fits with something I said further below on your post ;) So why does he talk about that "before"? Big bang - big crunch - big bang... and so on... A theory you claimed has been trashed. Last I heard, the prospect that there is much more dark matter than...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    Indeed, belief just happens, apparently, and it can't be justified. I guess that's one of the reasons I don't think I'll ever believe.... in the existence of a divinity. I was going to reply what lucaspa said just below!! :P tadá! There's a fundamental difference between acknowledging that...
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    Why BELIEVE, shouldn't we KNOW?

    I didn't demand anything, I required. There's a slight difference in tone. :cool: Plus, isn't that obeying out of fear the whole purpose of the OT?