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    I like the catholic church. Why do you seem so arrogant online?

    Those people at least tend to recognize their own fallibility.
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    Catholic or Episcopalian??

    Again-begging the question. That's true from the frame of reference within the Catholic Church. But the OP's question is whether or not to accept that frame of reference.
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    Catholic or Episcopalian??

    1) It's true that the Anglican Church started because of Henry VIII. But it's also the case that there is much more to the Anglican Communion than that. Later British monarchs had a much larger influence on the shape of the church than Henry. (That being said, St. Thomas More deserves every...
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    Conflicted

    Thank you, Steve. I suspect you may be right. I think the short version is that my mind in Episcopalian but my heart is still Catholic. And matters of faith are ultimately guided by the heart, rather than the mind. Incidentally, I also converted to the RCC, going through RCIA in my senior...
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    Conflicted

    Thank you for a thoughtful and helpful post. Your middle paragraph, about how it can be hard to whole-heartedly embrace something else after being Catholic especially rings true. What you wrote closely reflects my view of the Church. The hierarchy, along with certain teachings of the...
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    Have any prominent Islamic imams or clerics condemned the 911 attacks today?

    This is a concern only if you view all Muslims, or Islam itself, as culpable for the attacks. And that view most definitely lacks class. And connection with reality.
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    Have any prominent Islamic imams or clerics condemned the 911 attacks today?

    SOME Palestinians. SOME! Specifically, one group caught on camera. "Jesuitical" seems to be an epithet around here. That's unfortunate, because a little precision in thought and writing, as taught by the Jesuits, would raise the level of discussion quite a bit.
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    Conflicted

    Dark-Thank you for a thoughtful and useful response. I'll have to do a little more research on the Australian Bishop. The Church I attend does have a pretty Catholic style of worship. I do enjoy attending, and the theology of TEC is appealing to me. The 'something missing' is harder to...
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    Conflicted

    The short version: I was away from the RCC, or any religion, for a long time. Earlier this year, I came back to belief, and returned to the church I knew best: the Catholic Church. However, I ended up leaving the RCC for the Episcopal Church, primarily because of a number of issues that can be...
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    What gives you hope for the future of Catholicism?

    The march of history. Unfortunately, history marches slowly.
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    Whats your favorite scripture of all time?

    There are too many verses to name here. But I will say that Ecclesiastes and the Gospel of John are personal favorites, both because of the content and because of the poetry of the language.
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    Funniest thing Jesus ever said?

    Jesus's naming of Peter always struck me as being a play on words. Peter, translated directly, means something like rock, or rocky. Given Peter's habit of bungling, I suspect Jesus was suggesting (lovingly) that Peter was a bit dense. Jesus isn't recorded as making jokes, exactly, but I...
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    I'm considering becoming Anglican/Episcopal. I don't know where to start.

    I'm in almost the same place. Catholic to agnostic to Catholic to (now) becoming Episcopal. I can't speak intelligently about the various governing bodies. But I can tell you that the Episcopal service is very similar to the Catholic one. In some ways, it's more Catholic than many...
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    Anyone Here Gone From Catholicism to Episcopal?

    I've been trying to decide between the Episocpal Church and the UCC. In the end, the Eucharist and liturgical worship seem to tilt the balance towards TEC. My reasons for reluctantly (I still love the Church, and will always be a devoted fan of the Jesuit order and Ignatian spirituality, but...
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    Estranged Catholic Who Will Probably Join Another Denomination

    Shouting, "It's true, it's true!" Isn't an argument, at least not one worth engaging. Nor is question begging. When the issue at hand is whether the Catholic Church is right about a given issue, working from the presumption that the Church is right doesn't accomplish anything.
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    Does the UCC believe in evolution?

    I'm anything but an expert on the UCC, but the research I've done indicates that the UCC as a whole has no problem with evolution or science in general. Of course, the UCC is a congreational church, so your local church may vary.
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    Estranged Catholic Who Will Probably Join Another Denomination

    127- To call a person who is obviously genuinely and prayerfully searching shallow because they have serious disagreements about fundamental matters is unhelpful and borders on ad hominem argument. In the same way, your dismissal of all Protestants as Ted Haggard/Sarah Palin types betrays...
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    A refugee from the RCC

    I posted, in slightly different form, this article in the Liberal Catholic forum. However, I thought it might also generate some worthwhile discussion here. So, I apologize in advance for quoting myself. While I love the Church, I've long disagreed with certain core doctrines. The fact that...
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    Estranged Catholic Who Will Probably Join Another Denomination

    I'm also in the process of changing denominations. While I love the Church, I've long disagreed with certain core doctrines. The fact that birth control has become something of a shibboleth in the Church has been one of my primary stumbling blocks. However, the recent declaration that the ban...
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    Why are you still an Anglican/Episcopalian.

    I'm a Catholic who has been wrestling with the idea of converting to TEC. That post may well have convinced me.