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    Christian wives with unbelieving husbands.

    Do you think that means it's true? Seriously??
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    Christian wives with unbelieving husbands.

    You don't have to be rational if you don't want to. I personnally want to take reasonable steps to ensure my beliefs are true. False beliefs are harmful to not only the person holding then but also those around them.
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    Christian wives with unbelieving husbands.

    Anything that gives a rational reason to think your beliefs are true.
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    Believing in God?

    All of that, and still no proof that your God exists, lol
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    Christian wives with unbelieving husbands.

    Why not show them some evidence that your beliefs are true? That's what a rational person would do.
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    Bob Jones - Get rid of NZ 'God' anthem

    1 - it's only been our national anthem since 1977. Not that long. 2 - anti-change has been rolled out as a reason for continuing racism, slavery, sexism and every other bad idea humanity has ever had. It's the argument of the intellectually vapid and is usually just a shield for a hidden...
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    Same-sex marraig poll

    why should everyone, including those not in your religion, be forced to live under laws based on one interpretation of your religion?
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    Study finds moral equality between religious and nonreligious

    Which is totally irrelevant and nothing at all to do with my point.
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    Study finds moral equality between religious and nonreligious

    Only if the question at hand can be specifically covered by that particular religion or religious text. If you move into neutral situations they cover morality not specified in the religion then morality of religious vs none is the same. Example: imagine a train is rushing down the tracks and...
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    Study finds moral equality between religious and nonreligious

    I didn't say they did. I said if you poll a group if Christians vs a group of atheists you will get different percentages who think abortion or gay marriage is immoral. You're arguing against a point I didn't make. Like when I say 'studies have shown atheists to be smarter than the...
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    NFL Religious Discrimination

    Ah, so the NFL now admits the flag was a mistake. If you are religious you get special allowances that non-religious people do not. That's not the way to run a workplace in a secular country. It's called discrimination.
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    NFL Religious Discrimination

    Ah, so the NFL now admits the flag was a mistake. If you are religious you get special allowances that non-religious people do not. That's not the way to run a workplace in a secular country. It's called discrimination.
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    NFL Religious Discrimination

    At the time it seemed obvious to me it was prayer and the player confirmed it after the game. 'Yup flagged' means you are ok with discrimination? The attitude from many American christians seems to be that they are ok with discrimination .. As long as it is against groups they dislike, such...
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    NFL Religious Discrimination

    Totally irrelevant and missing the actual point
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    NFL Religious Discrimination

    'They' being the player and coach. What the officials said over the pa at the time was that he was penalized for going to the ground on TWO knees. The NFL have been very clear in the past that touching one knee to the ground in prayer is the only exception to the rule. That stance discriminates...
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    Study finds moral equality between religious and nonreligious

    Religious people have shown to be different from non-religious on issues specifically judged by their religion ie abortion, gay marriage. However, when you an issue that is unique and has not been specifically dealt with by their religion then the morality of religious vs non-religious is not...
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    NFL Religious Discrimination

    And tonight, we saw the perfect example. Abdullah of Kansas City was penalised for performing a traditional muslim prayer following his interception touchdown (2 knees on ground, forehead pressed to the earth), yet the traditional prayer of *some* christian churches of one knee on the ground is...
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    Happy Ramadan signs at 239 Woolworths stores

    Because people are hypocrits and not very smart.
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    The terminal decline of Christianity in New Zealand

    Your right to a belief doesn't mean that your belief is right. Census statistics clearly show that Christianity has been in decline for several decades. If you choose to hold a view contrary to that then you are quite simply wrong.
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    The terminal decline of Christianity in New Zealand

    So you're saying people can't simply choose to believe in things which are supernatural? Despite saying earlier that belief is a choice? So belief in god, which is supernatural, is not a choice? See the mess you get yourself into when you haven't thought something through and then try to...