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    Trayvon Martin

    If you own a gun you're a potential killer.
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    Trayvon Martin

    corrected for truth
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    How many published authors are on this forum?

    3 full-length poetry books, plus 5 pamphlets/chapbooks. Lots of stuff in magazines both print and online, plus reviews. Increasingly on the experimental side of poetry.
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    "Local" Biblical flood dismissed

    Truth is not the same as factuality. Jesus's parables are true without having to be factual. Story and poetry are probably two of the best ways to convey and/or explore spiritual and moral truth that human beings have devised. Facts are just stuff. Stories may or may not contain facts. So...
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    "Local" Biblical flood dismissed

    The Bible itself. The Book of Genesis is a highly literary work and has no basis in historical fact. The Universe, which is the arena of God's action for the believer, also reveals that the creation stories cannot be literal, because every single piece of evidence reveals an ancient earth, the...
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    Evolution is a lie

    Sorry to blow your mind, but there is evidence for all these thingss.
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    Aggressive agenda?

    No, but there's certainly been an increase in fundamentalist moaning about it...
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    Liberal vs. Progressive

    Do you do the thing with the Bible? Take things out of context and make it say the exact opposite of what it means?
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    Rock music ungodly?

    Yeah. Most so called Christian rock for instance. Awful stuff.
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    Liberal vs. Progressive

    There's nothing coercive about Marxism. The state capitalism of Russia was not communism.
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    Rock music ungodly?

    Music is to be enjoyed. If you don't enjoy it don't listen to it. I don't enjoy "contemporary worship" so I don't listen to it. I do enjoy Hildegaard of Bingen, Gregorian chant and music like that so I will listen to that. Personally, I'm a jazz fan nowadays; but I was brought up on pop and...
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    "Local" Biblical flood dismissed

    What of? That God is a nasty piece of work and shouldn't be trusted?
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    Rock music ungodly?

    Nonsense. What are we, automatons?
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    Liberal vs. Progressive

    Well - let me see now: Socialist government in England provided us with universal health care (until the Tory libertarianists started attacking it): it's still one of the best health care systems in the world. We have welfare systems that mean the poor don't die and the disabled are...
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    Liberal vs. Progressive

    You seem to have conveniently forgotten all the teaching that says that governments are ordained of God for the good of society. And, frankly, if we depended on the Christians to do it all, with the amount of right wing pro-capitalist Christianity in America, the poor would just get told it's...
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    Evolution is a lie

    Evolution is the change in frequency of alleles over time. This happens through natural selection and mutation together. And it's nothing to do with 'secular': despite what the fundies think, there's nothing unchristian about evolution. However, the liars of creationism prove how...
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    "Local" Biblical flood dismissed

    He didn't. That's why it's a story not a literal event.
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    Melvyn Bragg puts Richard Dawkins in his place!!

    The problem with a lot of these 'debates' is that they are often two mutually misunderstanding points of view, both sides have a tendency to go for the worst rather than the best of their 'opposition', and you end up with two sides talking at cross purposes with each other. Christians are not...
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    Liberal vs. Progressive

    And while we're at it, this is the result of 'liberarianism': Michael Rosen: 'Good for the economy' means 'good for the rich'