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Jeeze, why do people think there's only one amino acid at work here? Do you know how fast things move at the molecular level? Do you know how long 3 BILLION years is? Do you know how many trillions of self-replicating molecules went through iteration after iteration after iteration, failure...

s0uljah, if you're really that interested in understanding how DNA works, why don't you do what I did and get yourself a Biology textbook? Thanks to chickenman, I'm learning just how amazingly complex a cell really is(they're like little cities!), and how DNA can form completely on its own...

2000 years ago: Gosh, I can't figure out what lightning is. Must be the gods. Today: Gosh, I can't figure out how photosynthesis could happen on its own. Must be the gods. Give us a break already. - Joe

I'd like to jump in now and confess, it is pretty tempting, although it's more fun to watch Nick and Christian Soldier get dog piled. :) - Joe

Gee, I thought you were the one who wanted to discuss "science". Put up or shut up, CS/JJ. - Joe

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You want to discuss science??? Your idea of "discussing science" is to shoot holes in evolutionary theory without offering a valid, scientific alternative. Yes, please, let's actually discuss science for a change, JJ. - Joe

I posted this in another thread. It's just my humble opinion why I think extended lifespans would benefit Humanity. Suppose a doctor tells you that he can offer you a drug that will eliminate all causes of natural death, but only natural death. You would, of course, be susceptible to dying...

While it may contradict what we logically believe to be true, so far the evidence clearly suggests that SOMETHING (i.e., the universe) did indeed come from NOTHING. We have no evidence for anything else. These are assumptions you can not back up with any empirical evidence. Like it or not...

Awww, play nice Nick. You don't really want us to tally up who is more reliable around here, do you? - Joe

That wasn't very enlightening. Show us this "evidence". Tell us how you interpret it. How do we detect it and determine it's not natural processes at work? Supposedly, you are an expert at how wrong the biologists are interpreting it, that must mean you know how to interpret it correctly...

Since you're obviously such an expert regarding the supernatural, enlighten us, Nick. How exactly are we supposed to detect the supernatural if there isn't any supporting evidence that the supernatural even exists? Where do we detect the supernatural? What evidence do we base our conclusions...

No, but you sure act like you can. That's because you're telling them they're doing everything wrong, but you have not told them how to do it right. It is exactly like someone telling you how to do your job when that person is not an expert in your field. When are you going to provide...

So? That evidence holds up in evolution's favor every single time in court. Phillip Johnson is a freaking lawyer, for cryin-out-loud, and even he can't bring it down. What the heck makes you think you will be able to in here??? - Joe

Yeah, it's more like a football game. But Nick and CS are just the armchair quarterbacks complaining about how poorly the biologists and evolutionists play the game, yet they won't tell them how to play it right. Just imagine if they actually tried to get on the field themselves and play the...

So, tell us then, Nicky, since you're so confident this will happen, they must have a scientific theory waiting in the wings that they will use to describe the diversity of life. What is it? Intelligent Design? The old, we-can't-figure-out-how-this-happened-so-a-god-did-it? - Joe

It's a bogus comparison. We don't lock anybody up for criticizing Darwin. - Joe

My problem was that I had heard of this before, and last I knew, there was no Chinese paleontologist or biologist who'd ever said this. Johnson was just thought to be blowing smoke again (and now I gotta ask, was it Johnson who originally claimed this, or someone else?). It's news to me that...

Oops, I retract my statement then. - Joe

This is pure bunk. There is no Chinese paleontologist who ever said this. Keep spreading lies there, gunny. You'll be doing far more damage to your cause than any atheist will. - Joe

That's not what I learned in my geology class in college. Do creationist teachings even approach the level of detail that a geology course offers from a major college or university? Have you even seen an introductory geology textbook from a typical college, let alone study one? - Joe