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The situation is like this. From the time in wich Jesus body was placer in the sepulcre, until the women went to the same sepulcre, it was a continuous sabbth condition. That can be for the saturday previous to the sunday in wich the women went to the sepulcre; or for two consecutive sabbaths...

You are saying "Jesus of Nazareth is totally different to that of His Existence as the Eternally Divine Creator YHWH" That is saying that he did change. If the same person became somethig "totally different" is because it has changes. That change is do to two actions: hypostasis as you...

You are splitting God the Son and Jesus of Nazareth into two different persons. One being divine and other being human. If actually you are believing that God the Son and Jesus of Nazareth are one person (wich is what I believe), then he had both natures in him: human and divine. The point is...

I am getting tired of all this nonsence. Maake your mind and tell me if God the Son did have any divine atributes after incarnation. If your answer is yes; then, please tell me where do you read of any divine aatribute in God the Son incarnaated.

I am not imbesil and I am not insane. You are looking at the wirrow. I dont insist contrary to the scriptures. The scriptures tels of kenosis and you keep denaying the kenosis. Kenosis is emptying. Denaying kenosis is denaying scriptures. God the Son did never stop being God. But you...

Then what is your problem with me? Jesus didnt haave any divine atribute. If God the Son had all his divine atributes by being God, then necessarely he did change into not having anu divine atribute. How is that posssible...by kenosis, wich is a paaul teach, and consist in emtying of the...

I believe that Pilates and Herod were men in power, head of a province of the Roman Empire. I believe that for Pilates to send Jesus to Herod, it was necessary some protocols of communications, acceptance and preparations. I don´t visualize Pilate sending Jesus to Herod in a rush. Neither in the...

According to human or according to our Lord? There is two things with the same name: pastor. We call that omonimos. One thing is the pastor from the NT point of view. In the NT chruch it was established pastors to wach over the brothers; to keep them in the right path and doctrine. Those...

I am not imbesil. End of the game.

Originally Posted by Goinheix The Jesus in the Gospels had not any divine atribute. can you demostrate the oposite? You have say and repeat that Jesus did not have divine atributes. How is that you are not at the edge of herecy and I am? Can you identify in the Gospels, in the tome when...

If the second person is inmutable, how could he incarnate as the human creature Jesus of Nazareth? If he was not flesh and became flesh, it is quite a mutation.

now I am confused. You was saying that Jesus did not have divine atributes. You did also mention hypostasis. How is that when you say that Jesus didntn have divine atributes it is OK, and when I say it is wrong? If God do not change, how is that possible that he experimented an emptying...

I have not a problem with that.

I agree.

Originally Posted by Goinheix Please, help us to found verses and passages in the Gosples that show Jesus with the atributes of God. "You wont find them" That is "we will not found any divine atribute in Jesus of Nazareth" Am I interpreting you correctly? In that case we both agree...

For the porpose of my christology it will be more easy and simple if things are as you say. For my christology it will be better if Christ only existed as Jesus existed. But it seems not to be like this. Colosians 1:13-ss are against my and yours opinion.

I can demostrate that the present composition of the trial of Jesus in one mornig, is not the product of the Apostles, nor of the early church. It is not based on tradition (transmitioon of knowledge) but started in the IV Century out of a very light reading of the Gospels. I can demostrate...

I am not sure if saying "the Holy Spirit was with Jesus" is technically correct or if it is an herecy. jesus is one with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is his own spirit. Any how, Jesus body was not divine at all; and that is the thread about.

Sorry

Then we agree