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  1. Toney

    Chicken Dancing with Jesus

    Serious research project here. You know chicken dancing, right, one of the world's most annoying ear worms. If Our Lord was into chicken dancing, which of the apostles would have most delighted in Chicken Dancing with Jesus (CDWJ), and why? Just asking ...
  2. Toney

    WWMC roll call

    I used to be on the list, but now I'm not. Can I be on the list again?
  3. Toney

    WWMC roll call

    As one of the original agitators for this forum, yes, although I'm not around much anymore.
  4. Toney

    Outcast within . . . [open]

    Your point is well taken. It may be worth noting, however, that in order to be a woman, mother, wife, health worker, and a German one is not required to assent to a creed.
  5. Toney

    Outcast within . . . [open]

    I recall Spong's words in the introduction to one of his books. He wrote that his daughter told him, "You (the Anglican Church) are providing answers to questions no one is asking." There are over 1,000 Protestant denominations that claim to be based upon the Bible. I suppose that makes...
  6. Toney

    Outcast within . . . [open]

    The exclusive structure of CF's Christian only fora along with the CF litmus test for Christians (Nicene Creed and Trinity) should in no way make a follower of Christ feel outcast. This is a fairly insignificant website and has little to do with the practice of faith. I think CF serves an...
  7. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    Now this is IMO one of the best points that has been made in the thread. Although multiculturalists hate the thought, it is impossible to separate modern Christianity and Western Civilization, products of Greek philosophy and Roman law. Northern European spirituality, which celebrated and...
  8. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    Well, I don't know about that. I loosely employed medieval as meaning antiquated. I probably would not romanticize feudalism in the Middle Ages. True Christian charity existed in the Church prior to the medieval period. Feudalism required that the peasantry looked to the lords for...
  9. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    Thanks for your reply, DP. I had never thought of liberal Christianity as being watered down Christianity, but your point is well taken. A successful re-mythologization of the Christian epic will no doubt be antithical to the literal Bible, basis of the current mythology.
  10. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    Well, the OP was an invitation to present an argument for conversion (yours) to Christianity. It suggested that old ideas should be reexamined. I was just wondering if, after all was said, you gleaned anything from the thread that helped toward that end. A number of Scholars: Crossan...
  11. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    *Bump This thread was about to fall into oblivion on page 2. I was hoping that Dark Prophet would summarize.
  12. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    If one is a secular humanist, I quite agree. On the other hand, if one is a religious humanist, one might also be a Christian-Humanist. Emotional experience, as well as reason, separates us from the animals. You could posit that Christianity was an attempt by First Century Jews to explain...
  13. Toney

    [open] Goodbye, friends.

    Seebs, My utmost respect and support!
  14. Toney

    [open] A Seeker Has Some Questions That I Think You Can Answer

    Glo, please allow me pick at your post to pursue a contrarian train of thought: Jesus Christ was a Jew. Jesus died a Jew. I believe Jesus will return as a Jew. Jesus never converted, why should Dark Prophet? Humans accept a different concept of God when old God(s) stop working; when...
  15. Toney

    [open] Everything happens for a reason?

    Well, Jesus taught that every hair on our head is counted and that no sparrow falls without the Father's knowledge. Paul taught that all things work to the best for those who love Jesus, i.e. have faith. (The Great Romans 8:28 escape clause.) Normative Christian theology teaches that God...
  16. Toney

    [open]Why are you liberal?

    Well, Joe, you seem to be enjoying the video.
  17. Toney

    [open]Why are you liberal?

    Well, I might not call that video a true documentary. More like propaganda, at best a muslim info-mercial. A number of the assertions were false, others lacked attribution. But it was amusing. Having lived in Texas for a time (Houston), I can say that two bubbas converting to Islam is...
  18. Toney

    uniting all christians as one body[open]

    Thanks Debi & Matt and also to Tishri for her message. The moderator lineup at MJ looks a good deal friendlier, that's for sure. I did not try to post to a thread that did not have [open] tags, and there are not many open threads. Did anything change after that last go-round? (How are...
  19. Toney

    [open] for Toney- mystical experiences

    I wonder if anyone who does hold hold a doctorate in medieval literature should read John of the Cross. If you do, remember that he wrote during the Spanish Inquisition. He was a little guarded, so to speak. He remains, however, the reigning authority on apparitions and private...