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I have to admit, theology is like walking into a sliding glass door sometimes. Just when you think you see something clearly..... *bonk* :doh: :lost: in :mmh:

It sure is nice to have a discussion with someone that even in disagreement it remains enjoyable. I completely agree. In the light of this very concept it certainly is not my desire to force my beliefs on anyone. If anyone feels this way I do apologize. Precisely why it's all about love. :)

One problem with your word meaning. As I have stated previously, there are several definitions to "lambano". as a Greek lexicon will show such as this one: Lambano - Greek Lexicon Here we have 3 definitions dependent upon context. 1) To take (a through e) 2) to regard any one's power, rank...

This word lambano does have several definitions. However according to the context the translation went with "receive" which I am not disputing. Yet there is something else that is important to clarify; lambano - to receive (what is given) Now if it is grace and love that is given... is it really...

My opinion is that you may be looking at things a bit too mechanical or methodical. This isn't about what we do or say like it is some kind of ritual. When the Spirit of Grace comes it comes with power and conviction. Then His Grace fills you with peace and joy. It is all about a relationship...

That's okay, it's an over-rated title. ^_^ Personally I prefer Christian. I have a question... How are you a universal salvationist if you believe Yeshua was with Yahweh in the beginning and chose some that would and some that would not be called to be sons of God? :confused: I just... I...

And this is supralapsarianism, which I don't seem to mind as much as some other Arminians around here. I don't agree with it, but I see where you're coming from at least. :)

I am referring to post #1 -- however what I said was in jest, because of the irony that you would post that in this thread.

So you are disagreeing with all the Greek lexicons and basing an argument with etymology. We do not rely on the etymology of words when translating. This is why context is very important. For example two words together do not always share the meaning with the original words when joined with one...

The word "foreknew" in Romans 8:29 is translated from the Greek word proginosko. It is not ginosko, which is what you are implying. I'm sorry but you have received some invalid information. http://biblos.com/romans/8-29.htm

Well, the poster did have the exact link at the bottom of the post. :thumbsup: Everyone is aware that this is a public discussion forum right? :P I'm sorry, I fail to see the difference between what anyone else writes with the Word of God and what you write??? Might want to recant the wording...

Knowing that God is omniscient, wouldn't one then also agree that He knew beforehand the outcome of His first acts upon their hearts as well? I can totally see the chicken/egg situation though... Finite minds at work here :)

. Okay.... me. ;) Salvation and election is based upon God foreseeing who will choose to be saved. This concept rests in conflict within the validity of the vocabulary used within the very statement. In respect to whether or not the statement makes sense would run along the premise of the...

This stretches far beyond the topic at hand (faith & repentance being a gift) and curtails the scope changing direction toward "election, foreseeing and choosing to be saved." I would certainly enjoy being a part of a friendly dialogue on that motif, however I'm not sure it would be appropriate...

I suppose if one was looking for the default Arminian answer it would have to come straight from the horses mouth. The Works of James Arminius, Vol. 2 FIFTH PART: ON FAITH

I'm wondering if your sole reason for this is entirely based on personal experience, or is there something else? History has shown that there has always been disputes and disagreements even among the early Church Fathers and especially among the Ecumenical Councils eg.. Arianism, Monarchianism...

I think you might be using the word Arminian a bit too loosely here. I'm not sure what a "default" Arminian answer is exactly -- as if all Arminians would answer the same exact way? Or that the blanket statement of response to what you are saying is always in opposition to your statement? I hope...

This seems a bit rash in conclusion. Would you mind explaining this idea in a little more detail? What brought you to this conclusion precisely, and if not Sola Scriptura then what do you suggest? What would you say does work?

Well people are certainly entitled to their opinion, but as far as I'm concerned, I would just say that I just don't agree with the man currently on several issues. Howbeit, there is really no telling where he will end up with his theology and beliefs. Sometimes things can change overnight...

For now we see through a glass, darkly... I think 1 Corinthians 13:12-13 is worth serious reflection here. In context, I've journeyed through various stages of beliefs and spiritual growth over the years. I've changed views on several things; just as many other people have during their own...