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Sorry what I mean is the image of god tends to become a image of themselves. It's been shown in tests that this is the case though not enough yet to be fully conclusive. Those that are against hell and such or have no problem with gays tend to follow a Jesus that has no such problem, thouse...

Heh not sure if it's that ogical, or another one, but there was a great response, if the greatness of something is intingent on it's handicap, then what greater handicap could there be for a god that created everything, while at the same time not existing :> That is the greatest god I could...

heh well on the first point, christians showing real love wouldn't prove god or not, might go a long ways to show they are good :> But how a belief effects someone or what believers do doesn't show god really. Though it would help a bit at least :> my lack of belief is simply no evidence of...

heh I'm not sure you will get a good answer, I've tried with a few, they usually have some weird none answer answer like, "We don't do anything"

heh well if there was a choice and all real, for me probably chose one that fits my personality and such,...technically just as Christians and all others do, though I be chosing, not turning my god into my image. Ahem...hmmmm For me though Diana/Artimis always interested me, with her dedication...

I like otehrs find this entire idea of chose to believe or not believe silly. I can't chose to believe in CHristianity ay more then anything else. if I became a Christian again it be because evidence was provided that convinced me to believe it. Not, "Well you have to believe before your...

I agree, it's more a question if they consider being gay immoral, then why do they consider woman being treated as equal, probably just as much even by Jesus spoken of woman being beneath or men being in charge of woman and such throughout the bible far more then being gay. Slavery is also far...

Yeah you would you dirty evil woman, your just like those evil ones in the movie destroying america!!!!...and as a Canadian I salute you and tell you to keep it up j/k :>

But what do you use to define that change bad and previous ones good? Or are you against womans rights, against abolish of slavery and such since both of them have biblical backing? Is it because it's no longer Kosher*sp?* to complain about woman having rights you won't attack them for it?

No thoughts on this? It seems every time there is change there is doom and gloom brought up about it, yet they go through and things improve so why was past changes good, but now gay rights and such are bad?

I hear alot about how homosexuals and such want to get married or be in peoples faces, or atheists and such. But there have been many times in the last especially last few hundred years where there was big change some contrary to the bible and such. So what makes one change like womans...

Wich is pretty funny when you think about the idea of traditional marriage being a excuse not to change their perceptions of it...heh

Heh I forget how it was put once on a joke show or maybe it was Onion news, "Marriage should be protected and kept like it's always been, between a man and his woman, and possibly his mistress." And come on...the idea of tradition means...well it's traditional history to it, and if were talking...

Appocalypse of peter *think thats it* had Jesus saying that if Chrisitans in heaven asked for those in hell to be released they would be.

I enjoyed Saving Darwin by, Karl W. Gibberson it's a not too bad book on the subject.

I keep hearing this idea of free will, but exactly where in the bible does this ever occur? God frequently takes away free will, Pharoh, Paul, many others where god basicly demands they do stuff or forces them directly. Why does god suddenly care about it now, when he never did in the past?

Heh well depends, god struck down that one guy that refused to do it with his brothers wife and spent his seed on the ground so if were talking about whats best for people are we really going to take the chance?

Beyond a, "Marriage is a Christian insitute given by god to mean only men and woman." I really havn't herad much about what people consider traditional marriage. Traditonally it was a transaction, the groom paid the brides father to marry her, in the cases where the marriage wasn't arranged...

This whole argument is silly, why should wiccans, muslims, atheists, hundu's, and many others give a beep about what Christians define marriage as? Christianity isn't the only religion or group but they want to define everything their way. You don't want it fine, don't have it in your...

It was Tohmas :> As in, "DOubting Tohmas*sp?* :> And on the subject, I actually had a rather weird idea as for why that was :> Instead of Jesus himself coming back, it aws someone else, but said he was given a new shape or such, the holes to supposedly be the proof it was the old body. I...