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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    Hi there Camery:wave: Taking something seriously and taking something literally are not one and the same thing...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    Wow, wayseer, I don't know how I missed your post, but I do want to give you a very heartfelt thanks for sharing some thoughts and experiences with me. You're right, for sure, that Christ isn't found in the Church, or in the Bible even. (I mean, I guess some do, but...I sure never did, it...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    Hey Wayseer! :wave: You didn't ever do me the honor of answering my question... I'm quite curious about your conversion experience, is there anywhere I can read it on these forums, or would you mind sharing it(if you want briefly) with me? Thanks:).
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    You know, wayseer, from the moment I came in contact with you and have since observed your observations, it has become increasingly difficult for my mind to fathom how you have been able to approach Christ and come to know Him and claim to be a part of Him. Is there some where I can read your...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    That's what I said. I said what alters is how we interpret it.
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    I would say that our perceptions of truth are what change, our understanding of truth is what changes. If we're lucky it evolves. Progresses. But truth itself does not change!!! And I would beg to differ with you about God, His nature doesn't change. It's perhaps our perception of His nature...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    No one lives in space. There are no buildings in space. My statement still stands, if you need me to, I will revise it: Anyone who jumps off of a building on earth will fall down. You want a different example? All humans need oxygen in order to live. This thread is nice in that people are...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    Listen, if you jump off a building in Pakistan or in wherever, you will fall down with a big splat no matter what you believe about gravity. That is what I mean when I say this truth is absolute. Sorry if I said the word gravity which gave you a knee-jerk reaction towards "theories". What I...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    Sorry to jump in here, but this definition of truth will absolutely NOT suffice. Are you saying that truth is anything I believe that affects the choices I make???? WHAT? So if I believe that my cat is the moon and that her meows are moonbeams of light, so whenever she meows that means it's...
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    Introducing myself…

    I've been praying for this man for some days now. I feel strange saying, Lord, soften Mr. Gentleman Atheist's heart and allow him to discover you...but God knows perfectly well who this gentleman is. And how desperately he needs the Lord Jesus. I hope wherever you are, Mr. Gentleman Atheist...
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    God's Direction

    Lord, we believe you are a warm and loving Father, very near to us and very eager to grant what desires we have to glorify you. Hear your child, Lord and grant him what he needs to grow in your grace, and that he bear fruits in you, and glorify your holy name in all he does. Grant all of us...
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    My sister-in-law's marriage...

    My sister-in-law told me yesterday she found out her husband's been sleeping with another woman. She's been practically abandoned by him for the past 3 months, and she's suffering so much. Please pray for her, that God will give her peace and rest, and use this experience to bring her closer...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    You are conflating two arguments into one. I have already noted that what we are talking about, or at least what I am talking about, is NOT Paul's experience per se, but Paul's experience as an example of what others had experienced. I don't think Paul ever presents his experience as...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    I can live with that. The point I was making was that Paul includes himself in with those who SAW Jesus. No, he simply includes himself in the list of apostles. And draws a distinction on how he became an apostle. I submit that Paul never saw Christ, he just experienced Christ's presence...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    Hi there wayseer:wave: I wanted to ask you a question. You seem to keep referring to Paul's encounter with Jesus as a vision. This isn't true, he never saw anything except a bright light that blinded him, and then heard a voice. You also draw your conclusions in a curious way. You seem to...
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    Confused - can anyone help please?!

    I met my husband when I was 14. I started having sex with him at around age 16. I got pregnant at age 19. I got married at age 19. Had my first daughter at age 19. Eight years later, I’m still married and even more in love with my husband than before. Okay, so in my own personal case, it...
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    "what I hate I do" Rom 7:14-15

    Thank you for this post, I'm reading Romans at the moment, it's a very difficult book, for me. The stuff about the Law is very hard for me to grasp. Too much for my li'l ole brain. But I keep at it, I hope to understand it in some way some day.
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    Galatians 3:28

    I think one situation that might argue in favor would be that in which a male teacher is unavailable, and a female one is. I'm currently attending a church that is too small to afford to staff a pastor, and the person who most leads and teaches in the church is a woman, although she's not the...
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    Introducing myself…

    Dear Mr. Gentleman Atheist, I actually have been wanting to say to you something similar to what PerrySB has said to you above, for some time. What is it that you're here for again? To understand Christianity from Christians' point of view? I'm sorry, but I really do believe that it will be...
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    Poll: How much of the OT do you take literally?

    I would LOVE to hear responses to what wayseer has said.