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  1. *Song Bird*

    The Day Of The Lord

    Did you not see the word ABOUT in front of 'every verse' :scratch: Why do you not beleive they all spoke of the same day? They are all prophetic and mention the same events happening. Did you know that the Bible also has double prophesies? Many of the Day of the Lord passages that I assume...
  2. *Song Bird*

    The Day Of The Lord

    I think it's also important to note, that "That Day and Hour" that Jesus spoke of in the Olivet Discorse, meant in the Greek, a litteral “Day” (Hemera) and “Hour” (Hora). The word for “that” (mia) meaning ONE or FIRST. And the fact that he says before we see him coming in the clouds we'd see "...
  3. *Song Bird*

    The Day Of The Lord

    Malachi 4 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But unto you that fear my name shall...
  4. *Song Bird*

    The Day Of The Lord

    This is alot, but I wanted to post about every scripture that deals with 'The Day of the Lord" because it is a key in understanding eschatology. It is the Day that the Lord pours out all of his final wrath. Jer46:10 For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he...
  5. *Song Bird*

    Pre Trib Or Post Trib?

    Starstreak :scratch: What translation are you reading?? Mine says Revelation19:7-9 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen...
  6. *Song Bird*

    Parture

    A. No the rapture cannot be divided simply because it cannot precede the ressurection which is clearly (according to Revelation 19&20) after the Tribulation. 1Cor15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh...
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    Parture

    Revelation's 3:10 "Hour of Trial" cannot be the entire tribulational period because the Greek word litterally means “Hour” (Hora) The word for “the” or “that” (mia) also mean “First” or “One” Jesus used the same Greek word for hour in the olivet discorse when talking aobut 'that day and hour'...
  8. *Song Bird*

    Judgement, Rapture and the Wesleyan View

    I am a Post-Tribulational Premillennialist. Which means I beleive the Bible teches that the Lord will return to rule for 1000 years with us after the Tribulation. This Spring I started a paper that is currently 36,000 words defending this stance. I thought I'd share a little of my feelings on...
  9. *Song Bird*

    United Nations=Beast Kingdom

    Hmmm...it's possible...cept I don't beleive they Beast will be Nero reincarnated...but what you say about the Un and bush could be true. They definately have apart in the endtimes One World Government. But, people hate Bush soo much! Not me though...anyhow how is he in Daniel 11? For...
  10. *Song Bird*

    Who survives the 2nd coming? (Dispensationalists must see)

    I beleive the scripture teaches that many will die in the Tribulation, and any unsaved at the end of the Tribulation who served the Anti-Christ will be destroyed. However, not all unsaved will have accepted the Anti-Christ, and they will be here to enter the millennium. Daniel. 7:11-14...
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    i need to know. anyone got an answer?

    Well, Jesus did tell us exsactly what to look for, and so do several other books of the Bible. So we should look at what has happened and what still needs to happen and then make assumptions of aproximently how long it will be before his return. The biggest signs will obviously be the One World...
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    Your opinions on when the tribulation will begin

    typo-meant to put "demanded by Jesus" in the first sentance
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    Your opinions on when the tribulation will begin

    I don’t claim to know exactly when the Lords return isbut we are demanding to know when it is near, and I beleive it is. I am a Post-tribulationalist though, so I beleive we'll see the Anti-christ and etc. first. I believe the Second advant will be between 2009-2028. There’s many reason why...
  14. *Song Bird*

    How Important Is Evangelism To You?

    I think every Christian should be an evangelist to some extent. The way I see it, we should be doing everything we possibly can to win other to Christ. We don't have much time left, and the world is decaying rapidly, we should get out there and tell them of Christ! But, not only tell them, but...
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    bible code?

    I beleive in the Bible Code. It is very possible that God coded recent events in the Bible to be reveilved in these last times. Without computers it wouldn't have been possible any earlier. I 've read a couple books on the subject and can't say anything against it. I think that problems...
  16. *Song Bird*

    Venus Transit + End Times?

    Very intersting. Thanks for sharing the info. I donno...things are supposed to happen in the sky and cosmos near the end times...
  17. *Song Bird*

    Belief in Rapture

    I am a Post-Tibulational Pre-Millennialist. It's seems to me, all you refere to 'the rapture' as a secrete even that happens before a seven year Tribulation. Sadly this is a missconception. The 'rapture' aka cathing away of the saints, clearly happens at the end of the Tribulation. Christ is...
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    When do you think rapture will take place?

    You left out a very important view. The Whole Church will be raptured at the end of the Tribulation, and that's when the 1st ressurection happens.Jesus and his disciples specifically said this ressurection would be at "The Last Day" aka "Day of the Lord " in the Old Testament. This means NO...
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    Revelation 3:10 does not support a pre-trib rapture

    This statement by eternal life is limeting God. 1Peter 1:7 that the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: In Revalation we here a lot of...
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    The True Mark Of The Beast ?

    You cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beast. It is physical. I beleive it to be the micro-chip. Which by the way it's number is 666.