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"then have at it, in this particular discussion the evidence we are looking at is my train acccident, explain it through natural means, as I said before, " THEN GIVE US THE PARAMETERS TO RUN THE MODEL! how can you still post these remarks when you REFUSE to even let us adress them. "so far...

"I'm sure you can also quantify how many invisible elves, or dark energy faeries fit on the head of a pin too, but what good is that math?" sigh. can you even understand what the world around you is made out of? lets take gravity for example. mass attracts other mass. bigger mass attracts...

"Ok. :) FYI, the "laws" of thermodynamics really do preclude "nothing" from creating an entire physical universe full of energy. :)" FYI, learn what the actual theory states before you decide to trow this strawman in. you're making a ass out of yourself to all the people who actually DO know...

"Wouldn't a "formula" already be a form of math? :)" tada! you get it. we can describe all of nature in math. because every interaction is relative. this means we can put a numeral value on everything. "Where is the evidence that all matter and energy was ever collected to a single 'lump' in...

"Have a good day, random325nicaea --- :wave: I won't spoil it for you." gj at dodging the question.

" Science will present theories, which only become facts when the theory is repeatedly observed to be true." nope, that's not how it works theories explain the facts. like ToE explains the fact of evolution. and how atomic theory explain the fact that certain compounds react in certain ways and...

"That’s because the real universe isn’t built on math." find me one scientific formula that CANNOT be put into math "And in the real universe there is no big bang." that's the claim. now where is that evidence... "I don't need math to know that. I just have to look around. I have never seen...

"If the math was wrong back then who is to say it isn't wrong now." peer review will say that. remember in science we rerun EVERYTHING. including calculations. if there is a mistake, someone will find it and correct it. " But yet it was wrong. Believable but wrong. That pretty much sums up the...

"So much so, in fact, that when Jesus returns, He will ask: Originally Posted by Luke 18:8 Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? I used to wonder what people would leave Christian basic doctrine for. Now I have no question as what...

"Am I wrong in concluding that it is sin that is killing us and not nature?" wrong as wrong can be. to understand why. follow some biology courses.

"It would seem that the theory of the origin of the universe was developed by a highly religious man, and that his theory might have been influenced by his religious beliefs." it would seem you're trying to make a connection here that doesn't exist. btw, you're a bit out of date if you're...

"since being here I have even found a few who reject both." by which you mean evolution and the holocaust?

"Traumatic life events can alter DNA, Child Abuse Alters Stress-Fighting Gene, Study Says" auw...the cherry picking dishonesty works. "Instead, a particular gene's expression was dampened, causing the brain to produce fewer calming hormones" which essentially comes down to something we call...

"you know that genes can change during someone's lifetime?" YES we knew that. "Eg. Something lives in very hot environment, over it's lifetime, because of the heat, it's genes change to avoid being damaged by the heat, it passes them on to it's offspring." 1) your describing it in an awefully...

" If God is offended by blasphemy surely he is able to deal with offenders without help." which i have yet to see him do.

"There vine no vine, all in day and a night.' and proof that is happened is a story in a book? you familiar with "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" ? really, to even make this point with bible quotes, you need to prove us the veracity of the bible first. a feat not easily...

"I find it interesting that you guys have no problem with God creating a million times more trees than that in Genesis 1 --- just by speaking --- but, all of a sudden, He seems to be having difficulty hypergrowing a simple olive tree." i have no trouble with magical stories giving magical...

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"Yes. :P" how are you so sure...?

"The flood consisted of rain and whatever the 'fountains of the deep' are. I'll assume fresh water, and it is lighter than salt water so just forms a very deep layer on top" w8...is this still poe? because that phenomena would kill almost all marine life, not to mention cook it. "Sooo, no...