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  1. ArteestX

    Michelle Wolf kills at Correspondent's Dinner

    Phyllis Diller, Carol Burnett, Mary Tyler Moore, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Amy Schuler, Sarah Silverman, just to name a few.... Yeah, it's just you.
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    Society is on a course that is unalterable and unchangeable...

    As MLK noted years ago, the arc of he universe is long but it bends toward justice. We used to have monolithic societies of all white Europeans, or all Asian, or all *fill in the blank*. But the diversity of humanity cannot be contained and is expanding. And with that comes loss of power. White...
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    Michelle Wolf kills at Correspondent's Dinner

    Here are my personal favorite moments, and they don't involve any filthy words! And just a reminder to everyone, I'm here to make jokes. I have no agenda. I'm not trying to get anything accomplished. So everyone that's here from Congress, you should feel right at home. Yeah, before we get too...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    What if a man who cheated in his pregnant wife with a inappropriate content star told you to believe in him? What if a man who called Nazis "good people" asked for your support? What if a man who boasts of grabbing women by the p...... wanted your applause and cheers? Would you still follow the moral teachings...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    I think there is one other crucial difference. I think Democrats recognize that what was tolerated in the 90s probably should not have been, and I think Democrats are making strides in changing what we tolerate now, as reflected in the oustings of Al Franken and Anthony Weiner. I know from...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    I thought my paraphrasing was on point, but if you feel it was unfair, then let's re-examine what you said. On the topic of evangelical voting, you said, "The job of the voter is to pick the least-worst candidate. No more, no less. The candidate doesn't need to be a saint, just have better...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    Should Trump be evaluated in terms of the Bible? How would the Bible judge unapologetically cheating on a pregnant wife with a inappropriate content stsr? Oh and what you say is not obvious at all. When I talked with evangelicals in the 90s, they claimed the Bible had to be first and foremost in making...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    Any three paragraph description of 30 years is going to be a gross oversimplification, granted, but I'm curious to know what relevant factors you think are being left out. Evangelicals declared Clinton to be ungodly and that personal conduct (viewed through a Biblical lens) cannot be separated...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    That's fine, except that is huge change from the evangelical position during Bill Clinton's term. What you are describing now is the secular liberal position that religion, the Bible, and/or moral authority should not be the most important factor in voting. That's fine for evangelicals to...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    30 years ago when Bill Clinton was unfaithful to his wife, evangelicals across the spectrum said Clinton was too ungodly to be in White House, that the liberal position of separating personal behavior from presidential duties was moral relativism gone haywire, voting for a man who would cheat in...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    Your example is perfect. The problem isn't the chaplain refusing to perform the rite, the problem is the Catholic church doesn't recognize rites performed by non-Catholics. But chaplains cannot be the one to discriminate, they must do what they can when they can.
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    A military chaplain must perform religious duties for soldiers of many faiths; Muslim, Catholic, Buddhist, whatever. If a chaplain thinks people in these other relgions are going to hell, they still have an obligation to provide to their religious needs. If you can't do that, be a church pastor...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    I believe what they're saying is if a military chaplain thinks homosexuality is immoral and refuses to minister to gays, they are not allowed to be chaplains, which to them is discriminatory. Or forcing an evangelical wedding baker to sell a cake to a homosexual couple is discriminatory to their...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    The fact that you see no connection between the two is that only answer that matters.
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    I have asked many times and have yet to get an answer to what moral authority is used to support a politician who unapologetically cheats on his pregnant wife with a inappropriate content star. "He's not Clinton" isn't a moral authority or an argument. The only answer given is that politicians don't have to be...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    There is so much we can discuss about Trump (Mueller, fake news, policies, abortion, the Left’s so-called “War on Christianity” etc.), but I’m going to try to limit my responses to the question I asked at the beginning regarding Trump and evangelical’s view of sin and politics. Again, I am not...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    Sure, evangelicals are going to support pro-life people and vote against pro-choice. My issue is not why evangelicals voted for Trump's policies, my issue is about evangelical sin. In the 90s and 2000s, evangelicals didn't merely say they disagreed with making gay marriage legal. No, gay...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    I'm asking, in regards to Doonesbury, how do evangelicals define sin? Gay marriage is sinful, Clinton's sex acts in the Oval Office are sinful, correct? Is gay marriage more sinful than cheating on your wife with a inappropriate content star? Is Clinton's sexual promiscuity more sinful than Trump (which he...
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    So Clinton's and Obama's policies are immoral, but Trump's personal life is not immoral? Is this what you are saying?
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    Evangelical conservatism in the age of Trump

    Regarding the Doonesbury comic, do evangelicals still regard Bill Clinton and gay marriage as immoral? And do evangelicals regard Trump as equally or less immoral than either Clinton or gay marriage? Why?