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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    so you say that you earned your salvation????? Salvation is not by works so that no man can boast.
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    you are saying that Christ's sacrafice took away the sin of the world. This I understand.
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    Luke 13

    Luk 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? Luk...
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    Luke 13

    Luk 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? Luk...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    So you are claiming that because Jesus preached to the dead from Noah's time their evil was so strong that it was hanging around... Not so they were awaiting judgement (or had already been judged if you car to pursue that avenue). On hearing the Gospel they accepted and were saved. It isn;t that...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    but everyone is plain evil, so no one can please God .
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    Jesus saved us all....now we need to enter the Kingdom.

    1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1Co 15:25 For...
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    Jesus saved us all....now we need to enter the Kingdom.

    from my interpretation the last enemy is destroyed in the lake of fire and not at the ressurection. Remembere the lake of fire is the Second DEATH. And the last enemy to be destroyed is death. And as I stated the way you interpret that passage is reading into it. I read what is there.
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    even if you compiled all of the sin that you have thought done and desired in a finite lifetime while compiling a very lengthy list it is still finite.
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    so you have made sin immortal, but Jesus came to destroy the works of the Devil, did he fail? Is God's success dependent upon on mans will (free or otherwise)?
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    Jesus saved us all....now we need to enter the Kingdom.

    The verse says in Christ all shall be made alive. You interpretation renders the verse all in Christ shall be made alive. You are manipulating the verse so that it will say what you want it to. And one more subtle point, we beleive that all will be saved through Christ not "regardless of what...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    Yes man deserves punishment for his crimes. God Is love and God is just. Infinite punishments for finite sin is not justice. The law says an eye for an eye and the ET doctrine says that an infinite number of eyes will be taken for one.
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    Universalism

    your plural there is incorrect age of the ages eon of the eons.Since ages and eons usually refer to measured time I would disagree with you there.
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    Universalism

    I am pretty sure that your version of apollumi is incorrect I willlookintoit and post on it if no one else does. Blessings in Christ
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    Universalism

    yes I can see how you came to that conclusion . Remember that many versions translate that verse as age of ages or eon of eons.
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    Universalism

    I am saying that at the time he knew what would transpire in the future, but he felt bad for us and the point we were at, and also for what he was going to do.
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    Jesus saved us all....now we need to enter the Kingdom.

    :amen: If there are first fruits then there is a complete harvest...
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    Universalism

    There were some Good questions there three dog. I personally think that God knows the end from the beginning , but in the case of Noah He felt sad about how evil and flawed man was. Perhaps he even regretted creation for our sake, after all what hope did we have then our now. Outside of the...
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    Jesus saved us all....now we need to enter the Kingdom.

    there are several verses and attributes that suggest Universal salvation, but there are many different ways to interpret them. In a nutshell Universalists argue that aion and aionios do not in all cases refer to the eternal. Partialists argue that all does not refer to all. Both sides have a lot...
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    Jesus saved us all....now we need to enter the Kingdom.

    If it did not refer to those who did not beleive then it would say exclusively those who beleive.It does not, it says especially. Nor does it distinguish more than one thing that they are to be saved from. It is logical then to conclude thatboth groups will be saved but thoe that beleive will...