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    What Have You Read?

    Hey Variant, Sith, I am going to make this into a seperate thread once I get my notes together on it. Thanks for you input and I look forward to continuing the discussion at a later date. :)
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    A Choice

    And yet there are other ways that you choose not to engage in. God, if He exists is not a science experiment. He would be the Creator of everything we see around us and as such should be treated with the respect that would entail. If not, than how sincere of a seeker could you possibly be...
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    A Choice

    I am not a "religious person" telling you to take this on faith. I am telling you to take it to the Man Himself. In other words, you don't have to take my word for it, He will show you. Now that I have told you this, it IS your choice to make an honest effort at this. When you hear Christians...
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    A Choice

    I thank you for showing me a side of you outside of reasoning and science and into the emotional relam. I can't offer enough condolences to make what you experienced feel better, but I can connect with you on this same level. Allow me to share with you some things about me and my thoughts in...
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    A Choice

    I wasn't being sarcastic. In regards to open-mindedness, is one not being open-minded by trying all avenues? Surely someone who is seeking the truth will be open to all roads discovery and not just one.
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    A Choice

    Now how did I know you were going to tie back into that. :D Let's not get involved in a red herring, but let's stick to your OP. Let me ask you a simple question, have you humbled yourself like a child to a parent and cried out to God asking Him if He could make Himself known to you? Not in a...
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    A Choice

    I think it's more sacrificing one's arrogance in thier own opinion than anything.
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    A Choice

    I'm reminded of an old joke. A philosophy student barges into his professors office, disheveled and the look of someone who had been up all night. In his right hand was a book by Descartes. His looks at his professor with tears in his eyes and says, "Professor! Do I exist?!" His professor looks...
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    A Choice

    LOL! :D No no. We couldn't make it through the day without it, being as how weak we are in comparison to the rest of the animal kingdom. I mean, deer can lay a whooping on us for crying out loud. DEER! I guess what I'm trying to say is, if God is real, than the method in which to know He is...
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    Islamic Antichrist Paradigm

    Have a read of this. Islamic antichrist? Will the antichrist be a Muslim? http://www.christianforums.com/t7651013-6/#post60357462
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    Determining Reality

    Regarless of your perception I was joking, so no, you are not getting an apology. I was in one AWESOME mood that night. You said: Do you not see how hypocritical this is? Well obviously you can't and I doubt I can show you. You think what you believe to be true is true but you cannot be...
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    A Choice

    Yes and No. We have beliefs that are hard wired into us that we really have no choice but to believe. Your belief that you are experiencing pain for instance. These are experiential beliefs formed through our interaction with reality and make up the very foundation of our beliefs; properly basic...
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    What Have You Read?

    You're a cool dude in my book Gadarene and if anything my impudence has garnered a respect for your opinion. OK guys, I want to pose three questions to you. I will give you time to respond and it will give myself time to gather my thoughts. First, what is science? Secondly, what are the limits...
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    Determining Reality

    No one thinks that because they believe it is true, everyone believes their beliefs are based on reality. That is hands down one of the most absurd things I have ever heard uttered on this board. I guess I'll repeat myself being as how you feel the need to do the same. No one believes reality...
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    What Have You Read?

    Thank you for accepting my apology :)
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    What Have You Read?

    Thanks for understanding. :)
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    What Have You Read?

    Agreed. My apologies to you Variant.
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    What Have You Read?

    I am in the wrong, if anything, I insulted Strobel. I have a habit of rushing to conclusions and in the process come out looking silly. I'm dissappointed in myself and offer you an apology. I went looking for a fight tonight and I thank God that He has shown me my fault in this and convicted me...
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    What Have You Read?

    Success breeds hatred. Period. Can you tell me what Sidney Crosby has done to deserve the disrespect he recieves on a daily basis? How about my boss at work? A family man who everyday is forced to make hard decisions. The fact of this world is that if you are successful in anything, all the...
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    What Have You Read?

    You mentioned 3 philosophers and 1 journalist and you lumped Craig in with him. The right thing to do is not to insult me and show me how my logic is faulty. Since you can't show me how my logic is wrong you keep insulting me in an effort to save face. Do you have anything worth while to say...