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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Both stole their land from the Neanderthals (whom they exterminated beforehand)
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Yes, and he was a sinner. As you know, David was not a perfect man. He stole, betrayed his own people to the Philistines, and so on. Nowhere is it said that everything he did was perfect. With Christ, we are held to a much higher standard. Not at the cost of sinning. God is more important than...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Yes. That is the definition of these words. But, as you know, words are sometimes used not in their original sense but as euphemisms; as a way of being polite. In the XVIIIth century, it was very difficult to be an agnostic (let alone an atheist) openly. So when people suspected someone of...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    This is exactly what is wrong here. Many so-called evengelicals act as if the US constitution was the 67th book of the Bible. This is how lost they are. We must wake up and realize several things: The constitution was written by deists and Freemasons, i.e. by the spiritual ancestors of Hillary...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    God will judge us for the sins of the founding fathers. That is true. But he will judge us for approving the sins of the founding fathers if we do (Romans 1:32). For example, when a so-called "evangelical" Chuch displays the American flag behind the pulpit, yes, there will be judgment for that.
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Stalin and Hitler are above all religious authorities like the Pope. Both Nazism and Communism are totalitarian regimes, which means that they encompass both the secular and the religious. Both Hitler and Stalin were being worshiped as gods on earth (huge rallies, portraits everywhere, children...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Britain freed slaves long before America. If the 13 states had remained under the British crown, the slaves would have been freed earlier.
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Are you a Christian? If you are, what do you think of Romans 13:1-6 ?
  9. fi11222

    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    I never said we should vote for Hillary. Sure. So what? If other people sin does that mean we should sin too ?
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    I am certainly not a Democrat neither do I support them in any way. But we can no longer go on pratling about the supposed sanctity of the American Constitution while claiming to be Christians. Being "patriotic" is now equivalent to serving another master. If all this means we will have to...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    I never said you should vote for Hillary. No one is forced to vote. But being "patriotic" in the sense most Trump supporters are is turning us into zealots, i.e. into supporters of Barabbas, not of Jesus Christ.
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Look just above and you will see that I said we should obey the government (be it Caesar or Hillary Clinton). Just that being "patriotic" is incompatible with being Christian. Besides, if you say "two wrongs do not make a right", does it mean you consider the American Revolution to have been "a...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Presenting "facts" in this way is misleading. I do not know if it is on purpose or not. Yes, if you take the whole group of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence and of the Constitution, the majority are "Christians". But the few that are not are precisely those which had the most...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Christ said that we are to resist religious authorities that are unfaithful (the scribes, the pharisees, the Sanhedrin) and it is on those grounds that Luther and the early protestants resisted the Pope. But he also clearly said, and Paul also, that we are not to rebel against secular...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    Look up any biography of Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin etc. The fact that they were able to deceive many Christians among those who signed the early documents does not change a thing. The leaders were corrupt and the deed was a vile sin. Christians do sin, by the way ...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    When Ted Cruz won the first Primary in Iowa, I was elated. I thought "Good Lord, there are still Christians in America". And then I watched in Horror as the race descended into Trumpish madness. Then I accepted the punishment and asked the Lord for guidance on what this all meant. And I...
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    The American Revolution was a sin. And now we are punished by having Trump

    In the Bible it is said "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" but "No taxation without representation" is nowhere to be found. And it is clearly stated that we have to submit to earthly authorities (Romans 13:1-6). So, on what Biblical grounds can we justify the American Revolution? Try as you...