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    Violence in self-defense

    For starters, looking at the first part of the OP: The problem here is that one has relied on a copyrighted perversion of the Holy Bible, which has predictably skewed one’s discernment. Even Christ himself did not literally turn the other cheek when smitten by a member of the...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    From the OP: The flagship instrument that evinces the answer to your question is USA's "We the people..." contract aka "the constitution." And that instrument is void of any mention of God. God calls that idolatry. The persona/status of its signatories, or the personal beliefs of its crafters...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Again, we're dealing with 24/7 worldly conditioning, mind control. The power of the lie is strong. People react violently when their traditions are exposed or ignored. And USA Inc.'s constitution is a tradition of men. Anyone can wax eloquent at any time with their opinions, anecdotes, and...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Caesar has jurisdiction over all "religious" arguments.
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Indeed. So why should a born again believer be found rendering to either gov't? Who is twisting what (e.g. USA Inc.'s constitution), what forces have been brought to bear, to deceive the born again into serving an ungodly master? Should we continue sinning that grace might abound? What is...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    We know who the author of confusion is. If there are questions, then bring them out and we'll take a look. Different animals, with Caesar offering differing levels of "protection." Yes. Well, do I need to ask how many people enjoy gov't jack-booted thugs banging down their castle door? People...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Well, with that comment, you've highlighted the gist of both the OP and the present situation facing Caesar's US citizens today. Firstly, as documented, Paul's "citizenship" is not equivalent to today's Caesarian citizenship via the constitution. Secondly, it's obvious that the USA...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    The pertinent question involved the definition and duties of citizenship. That was answered, in large part, back at post #242. Further, in light of clear scriptural precedent in dealing with the governing authorities, much of the material I read, and the attitudes I see on the part of people...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Those who look to Caesar's "face," will indeed render to Caesar. Christ determined the question, and evaded the snare, by referring them to their national concessions already made, by which they were precluded from disputing this matter, v. 15-17. He knew their hypocrisy, the malice that was...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Be like Israel. Be faithful. Don’t borrow and then suffer for it. Be a lender and reap the blessings. No, rather, what was the question that prompted that response from Jesus? We will illustrate, via a look at the popular 'Jesus paid taxes' lie that is taught throughout evangelical...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    This claim of yours is especially troubling. Let’s take a look at that chapter (Deu. chap. 28) to learn who has taken what “out of context.” First, have a read of the chapter for yourself here. The chapter is a description of what will befall those who do NOT follow...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Supposed to be, anyway. We'd need to define "education." Same here. And yes, they call us "consumers" because, like locusts, we CONSUME everything. Used car, 1991 model, paid cash. Same here. And have not paid any rent since 2001. Ditto on ALL of that, also! Totally liberating!
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Dead wrong. No one "falls" into debt. You make the choice and then Caesar's "useful idiots" are there to make sure you get bled thoroughly. Excellent advice. An education, for what purpose? To get a Caesarian sheepskin to enable you to go out into the world and more effectively become a part...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    And there is your fundamental error. That's idolatry. No man can serve two masters. And that's why you're double minded over this issue presently and living beyond your means. Rather, God says, "Do not borrow." (Deu.). You know better, but you disobeyed God anyway. At least you're forthright...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Glory to God! My folks went through the 30's depression. It breaks my heart to see people suffering for the wrong things. Like the bill of goods being sold ala the constitution. Children of God should know better, but the enemy is crafty as. Satan gets us to do it to each other. The...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    So much for averages! Do you realize what a rare bird you are? Indeed, just like the OP (i.e. USA Inc.'s constitution). And let's have you tell us again what the advantages of such a lifestyle choice are: RedPonyDriver, maybe you should buddy up with smaneck!
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Questioning is good. "Christianity" is just another label, whereas, you must be born again. Indeed. The gist is that we are not to go into debt. It is important that we should remain separate from the unclean things of the commercial world. Our Father has made it clear that we cannot serve...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    lol As I said, the body of Christ is not made up of thieves; we pay for what we use. I am not involved in commercial activity; I do not enter into contracts with heathen. I am not under Caesar’s jurisdiction. I also sojourn in my vessel on the common way (in Caesar’s...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    Hey, that was a fair response. The first objection people usually say is that Paul, an apostle of Christ, called himself a "citizen". Acts 21:39, "But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto...
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    Was America founded on or meant to be Christian?

    There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. Yeah, it's all just a conspiracy. Not for Caesar's citizens.