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So does that wrap things up for this thread? Are we all on the same page now?? Surely there are some closing arguments from the other side. PG, are you out there? Holyrokker, did you understand my posts from yesterday, and are we in agreement? Hello....... (echo effect) Is anyone out...

Allow me to get this going... Regretfully, I have to admit that there have been times in my life that I have unknowingly and willfully sinned. I am so glad for the example of God's grace shown throughtout the Scriptures! I am thankful for the list of people in Hebrews 11 that were given the...

I would agree with this. Yet, I want to make sure that we are talking about restoration of fellowship NOT relationship. John 3 makes it clear that there is a spiritual birth that takes place at salvation. Ephesians 1:5 and others Scriptures refer to us as children of God. I am a child of...

Sorry. You posted it before it was completed. Posters these days...;)

Sorry. You were obviously not done posting yet. I would agree with all of it except your meaning behind - "Can we live in sin and be in Christ at the same moment? No." If you mean lifestyle of sin - I am with you (1 John 3:6; 5:18). If you mean, when we sin we are not in Christ I disagree...

Yep. I have that passage in my Bible too! It is one thing to use Scripture in your posts, but it is helpful to explain your purpose for the use of that Scripture. Could you explain your purpose to us?

I say this politely... Am I missing something? What have we been discussing in this thread? I think ample Scripture has been used on both sides. The ones (the majority in this thread) that want the question answered are the ones that think PG is misrepresenting Scripture. We are not just...

I'm back. :wave: Boy, a lot has has been said since I have been gone. Yet, it stills seems to be a consensus that it all boils down to one question - Do genuine, true Christians occasionally sin? That actually does go right back to the main post that started this debate, and it is the main...

Well said. :thumbsup: You don't have a sense of humor or are a freak Christian if you think body parts should not be discussed, especially in regards to the opposite sex! I could care less someone's opinion in this regard - as if that makes it okay. I also have two daughters - does that then...

Oh, excuse me!! I... I am so sorry. I... thought that I was on a Christian site!! You guys just carry on with your inappropriate discussion...

Too funny!! ^_^

That's quite the neckband! ;)

Rabbit trail? Oh, are you referring to the question that you never answered? You know... I have to take a break from you. I realize that there is no talking to you, for we are not using the same tools. I have seen this in this thread, as well as in the pro-life thread. I could answer...

Mr. Princeton Guy, Please, when you reply... if you reply... please use the art of brevity. You're killing me, man!

I wish you would have just typed the first part of your post and then sent it out. It would have saved you a lot of time. See, your whole line of thought goes out the window when you want to use Mark 10 and Luke 10 then ignore John 3. Ridiculous!! (Oh, and on that subject - I fear you...

Thanks! I thought this one went well with my username! Yeehaw! Though, I have to admit... I can't wait to use this one...

You have once again missed the point! None of us (who have been challenging Princeton Guy) would say that a Christian can continue in a lifestyle of sin. Yet, we are strongly opposed to the idea that Christians can get to the place in their walks where they will NOT sin. That is not an excuse to...

If you don't mind, I am going to ignore quite a bit. My lunch hour is limited (though I will have to expand it a bit here ;))... (My words in red)