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Your analogy is incomplete. If the child doesn't return her parents' love to their satisfaction, what then? Are the parents justified in locking the child in the basement and torturing her there for the rest of her life? When human parents love their children the way God supposedly loves humans...

We already have that. It's called bartering (i.e.; I'll do this for you if you'll do that for me.)

(emphasis mine) Except when they could. Exodus 21:20-21 (NASB) 20"If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. 21"If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property. If it takes a day or two for...

(emphasis mine) Except when it wasn't: Leviticus 25:44-46 (NASB) 44'As for your male and female slaves whom you may have--you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. 45'Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you...

It's true. The God of the Bible is okay with slavery. He even gives instructions on how to obtain slaves and how those slaves should be treated. "Fellow Israelites" are not to be treated ruthlessly. Non-Israelites aren't quite so lucky. Yes!

Ugh! Sick thread.

I don't understand it either. From what I've read, the God of the Bible doesn't seem at all lovable (assuming he exists). Is it considered unethical or immoral to not love God?

Yes, it's morally acceptable. Barbara

You're wrong! I have no questions of that at all. Barbara

I agree that reduction in human population would be good for the environment. I don't think anyone has to be "struck down" or "blinked out of existence" to acheive that, though. People just need to be educated about the negative impact of human overpopulation. Maybe, then, couples who are...

No. I think the world needs more atheists. Belief in, and worship of, supernatural beings whose existence cannot be demonstrated, is irrational, fosters hatred, and hinders intellectual progress. Barbara

Sure. Go ahead, Christians, tell your kid not to be comfortable with who he is. Tell him to spend his lifetime pretending to be something he's not. Make sure he knows that the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness doesn't apply to him. Tell him how little his happiness means to...

If I were to hit someone (e.g.; a neighbor or some other random person) for, say, knocking over my garbage can and leaving a mess, I would be arrested for assault, and rightly so. It's for this reason, and others, that I do not think it's okay to hit children for misbehaving. If parents...

I know. That's why I said, "Some Christians believe...". You're not alone. There are many others (on other forums and probably here too) who feel the same way. While I may have given an opinion on when I think a fetus becomes a person on other threads, I don't recall giving any opinion in this...

That's the Christian's shorthand way of saying there's no such thing as an atheist. Some Christians believe that we're all born with an innate belief in God and that "atheists" are just denying it so they can live in sin without feeling guilty, or some such nonsense like that. Barbara

Ex-Christian here. I retained my moral convictions, for the most part, after I realized that God probably isn't real. It's possible that my moral convictions began to change prior to to this but I can't say, positively, one way or the other. My behavior hasn't really changed that I'm aware of...

What a crock! This demonstrates that neither of you has a clue what morality really is if you define it as "because God said so". Barbara

Not unless they already have children. No. Not unless they've given birth to a living child that subsequently died. Okay. No. Abortion is not a birthing process. Barbara

Agreed. It isn't that simple. Not everyone considers an unborn fetus to be a child until it reaches a certain point in its development. So, this greatly depends on one's point of view. Barbara

Less than 10 opinions. Only 280-million-plus to go. Many times, I've heard people say, "Gay marriage destroys the family". How do they know? Who gets to decide what a family is or should be? Too many people are making statements like this based on nothing more than their own personal...