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    Here we go again...

    I think you misunderstood me Micheal I noted that Icons are a required part of orthodoxy but their use in Orthodox church buildings is not always the same. I used the Western Rite as my example for this, as their churches usually have no iconostases or other apparent icons in their layout. This...
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    Here we go again...

    I think it is worth noting that while Icons are an essential part of Orthodoxy their use in church decoration varies greatly from parish to parish I mean look at the western Rite churches that have very very few icons on display. Statuary though has been rather roundly condemned by the Orthodox...
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    Mom's first liturgy....

    As far as your mom saying she did not get anything out of it I would not worry too much about it. This seems to be the normal response from Protestants after their first experience with liturgical worship. They are used to being spoon fed a long sermon with only a small part of their services...
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    Ancient History

    I love ancient history and got a double major in college of General History and Classical Civilizations. My main focus of further study has been the later Roman empire especially the 3rd Century crisis. I am trying to branch out into the early middle ages and also ancient India but I have not...
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    Losing faith in Orthodoxy

    I am praying for you as well Komnenos. I will reiterate what others have already said. Don't judge the church by the people in it but by the teachings of the Church. While the Church is more than just a secular organization it is still composed of flawed individuals whose actions should not be...
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    Tension between Patriarchs?

    Ah that clears it up some Matrona thanks. It appears that what we have here is the secular politics infringing on church politics. The Ukrainian schismatics are basically nationalists who resent Czarist Russian and then Soviet domination of their country, and the Russian church is concerned...
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    Tension between Patriarchs?

    This article certainly makes it all sound pretty bad but you are probably right we should wait for more sources before we panic. I am not all that up to date on church politics overseas so is this a reflection of actual church disputes between the Ukrainian Orthodox and Russian Orthodox? Or is...
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    Tension between Patriarchs?

    Please read the following article:http://greekinsight.com/?conID=13613 Alright seeing as how I am rather new still to Orthodoxy would some of you guys/girls tell me if this is business as usual or something we should be somewhat worried about? Hope its not a repost :o
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    orthodoxy in the Western Church

    Every church spends more than a little time justifying what it believes vs. what its peers believe. Don't know what I am talking about? Go to a Southern Baptist Sunday school for a few Sundays and see how long it takes you to get a lecture about how prayers for the dead, to the saints, or...
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    Speaking in Tongues

    Well I think its clear in Corinthians that open displays of Tongues without an interpreter is wrong. But I dont recall anything about private experiences in the Bible and am not knowledgeable enough about the fathers to comment on what they would say. I would say this though that seeking out...
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    Capital Punishment

    Source please? I was taught the exact opposite of this in Criminal Justice that in fact criminals in states that aggressively pursue death penalty convictions say the death penalty is something they took into consideration before committing a crime. Which means that probably some who do take...
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    Can I keep my cantankerous nature in the OC?

    You and I are kindred spirits NHB and I seem to have found a home with the Orthodox. If there is anything that Orthodoxy is not its the evangelical feel good Christianity you see in many protestant groups. (Not that there is anything wrong with your love of god making you feel good but thats not...
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    Calvary Chapel

    I went to a Calvary chapel for a little while before I became Orthodox and at least those times when they taught from the gospel it was for a protestant church pretty theologically sound. However they often went in for the Joel Osteen school of preaching about kind of feel good non-gospel...
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    What aspect of Orthodoxy appeals to you the most?

    Three basic things attracted me to orthodoxy at first. Primarily the concept of Salvation as a process rather than a single 'save me Jesus' moment that you often get from drive-thru Protestantism that I was involved with. Secondly as my name implies I am a historian by training, I saw in the...
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    Any thoughts on this?

    Seems to me there has to be understanding reached between the two churches and things like this cant hurt. I am sure the EP will not be partaking or aiding in the Eucharist but being there more as an honored guest than anything else.
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    do doctrines develop over time..

    Thank you for the reply but please do not misrepresent what I said. No where did I say doctrines change over time and no where did I say the catholics were right. Its my understanding that monica is a catholic therefore relying on orthodox opinions about her church would be like me relying on...
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    do doctrines develop over time..

    The problem with judging the Catholic church based on what the Orthodox say is the same one you would have judging the Democrats based on what the Republicans say, they approach the same issues from different view points. That does not necessarily make the Orthodox perspective wrong but its...
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    do doctrines develop over time..

    As far as I understand it both the Catholics and Orthodox see the faith as being whole and complete since the time of the apostles. What happens is the amount emphasis placed on the theology that was already there changed over time. For example the Catholics would contend that the Immaculate...
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    What would Jesus really do?

    But you do know thinking people who agree with pandering to the working poor and the umemployed of the Democrats? Pandering is pandering period. LBJ's great society is a great failure yet we keep expanding welfare programs that he put in place despite 'welfare reform' in the 90s. I feel...
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    Which websites?

    I will second fatheralexander.org as well as the main sites for the different national churches in the US. I will also conditionally add orthodoxinfo.com I think I read somewhere that this site is maintained by a schismatic group but I could be wrong. Wether it is or it is not this site still...